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Covid: Prior infection vs vaccination - Which one provides a higher degree of immunity?
Dr. Sebastian Rushworth, M.D. ^ | 05/13/2021

Posted on 05/13/2021 8:18:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/13/2021 8:18:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The masks are off


2 posted on 05/13/2021 8:26:26 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting.


3 posted on 05/13/2021 8:26:39 PM PDT by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Very interesting. So because I have had Covid, I am just as least likely to get Covid again as someone who has been vaccinated.

So why should I get vaccinated and take the risk, very very small risk, of having any adverse reactions or consequences from these vaccines?


4 posted on 05/13/2021 8:28:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Actual FR Quote: “I ain’t getting no Covid Vaccine. I’d rather get Covid and DIE before I get a jab.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Summary:

92-93% risk reduction for having a prior infection, statistically the same as the faux ‘vaccines’.

I’ll go further:

As I stated months ago, we’d have reached a theoretical herd immunity by September of last year if they’d just put kids in school over the summer, the safest months of the year. I also stand behind prior statements that the total deaths would have remained unchanged, if anything reduced under other such ‘sane’ measures.

But without their artificial ‘crisis’ they couldn’t stage multiple multi-trillion dollar bills or coerce the population into compliance, now could they?


5 posted on 05/13/2021 8:31:00 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Responsibility2nd

To make someone else feel better


6 posted on 05/13/2021 8:31:34 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; ...

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7 posted on 05/13/2021 8:31:41 PM PDT by bitt (People who wonder if the glass is half empty or half full miss the point. The glass is refillable.)
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RE: As I stated months ago, we’d have reached a theoretical herd immunity by September of last year

The question is herd immunity to what variant of the Coronavirus? Maybe the original, but we have variants from the UK, Brazil, South Africa and double variants from India and who knows how many more?


8 posted on 05/13/2021 8:34:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Responsibility2nd

You are likely even MORE protected, if you’ve had china flu, naturally....

Dr Peter McCullough....(note/transcription, of interview, by FRs ransomnote), scroll down....

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3955998/posts

...But I think we should just recognize that it’s (Covid) is going to be here. [ransomnote: Stopping at the 20:22 minute mark in the video. There’s another 10 minutes to the video which I will transcribe later. He does say if you’ve had Covid, you have immunity for an average of 17 years and is against vaccinating those who have already had Covid]...


9 posted on 05/13/2021 8:34:55 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Eric Topol
@EricTopol
Much on T-cell for vaccines & variants is unknown.
A @GladstoneInst preprint sheds light:
—Prior covid + vaccine -> very strong response w/ homing
—Supports: (1) need for vaccine w/ prior covid, (2) just 1-dose, and (3) marked protection vs variants”
https://biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.12.443888v1

And a thread on natural immunity:
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1390768515259408387

“Older immune systems have an increasing tendency to mistarget the virus, paying too much attention to its Nucleocapsid and Open Reading Frame 8 proteins, and not enough attention to the Spike protein”

Glad to see pre-prints about natural immunity! Interesting!


10 posted on 05/13/2021 8:38:50 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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RE: Older immune systems have an increasing tendency to mistarget the virus

So, mistargeting viruses increases with a person’s age?


11 posted on 05/13/2021 8:42:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Responsibility2nd

So why should I get vaccinated and take the risk, very very small risk, of having any adverse reactions or consequences from these vaccines?
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The risks with vaccination are largely unknown but we do know that the CDC/Fauci say that the vaccinated will have to continue to have additional ‘shots’ (e.g., ‘boosters) and that the CDC has declared those additional ‘shots’ will not have to undergo testing.


12 posted on 05/13/2021 8:47:44 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, what they’re saying is that the immune system targets the whole virus instead of the spike.

The spike is like, to this layman, the armor attack of a Blitzkreig. Fighting against other parts of the opposing force is futile as the armor overruns the defense.

Hope my analogy is helpful.


13 posted on 05/13/2021 8:48:31 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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RE: Well, what they’re saying is that the immune system targets the whole virus instead of the spike.

I can understand this. But what does a person’s age have to do with it?


14 posted on 05/13/2021 8:52:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

You’ll just have to click on the link. I’m a layman on the subject.


15 posted on 05/13/2021 8:59:17 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: SeekAndFind

“I work as a physician in Stockholm, Sweden. I studied medicine at the Karolinska Institute and graduated in January 2020.

I am a proponent of evidence based medicine. In other words, I think that medical diagnosis and treatment should be guided by the scientific evidence, not by expert opinion…”
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If the study of Medicine in Sweden is anything like in America, he’s just beginning his serious learning. He is, at most, a second year resident and still “wet behind his ears”. The article is right… natural immunity is definitely as good as mRNA vaccine prepared immunity.


16 posted on 05/13/2021 9:00:38 PM PDT by House Atreides
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“natural immunity is definitely as good as mRNA vaccine prepared immunity.”

Studies I’ve seen show that one shot of mRNA vaccine gives significantly better protection. than “wild” infection.
Of course there may be a bias there.


17 posted on 05/13/2021 9:05:51 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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Not according to the British study in the linked article. If conducted as described it would have provided statistically valid results.


18 posted on 05/13/2021 9:12:44 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

What link please?


19 posted on 05/13/2021 9:14:30 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, both my husband and I have had covid ... twice. We had different rates of recovery, but recover we did. We got covid for the second time at nearly 10 months to the day from the onset of the first bout. A friend of mine had a similar experience, only she went 11 months between bouts.

For what it’s worth.


20 posted on 05/13/2021 9:15:37 PM PDT by Ladysforest (Racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia and vulgarity - with just a smattering of threats and violence)
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