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To: RC one

“This isn’t even a study. It’s straight up BS”
AGREED
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987720333028

In the third paragraph with heading “Hypothesis”, the author Baruch Vainshelboim – credentials below indicating a connection with Stanford-
Address: VA Palo Alto Health Care System, Cardiology 111C, 3801 Miranda Ave, Palo Alto, CA 94304, United States.
baruch.v1981@gmail.com
Cardiology Division, Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System/Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA, United States

… says this -

“Given the fact that asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times higher than the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate is considerably less than 1% [5]. This was confirmed by the head of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from US stating, “”the overall clinical consequences of COVID-19 are similar to those of severe seasonal influenza”” [5], having a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1% [5], [6], [7], [8].”

The amazing thing about the link to reference number 5 is that that article was co-written by Anthony Fauci. It would be amazing if Fauci said the fatality rate for Covid was .1%, given that .4% of New York City died of Covid. In Europe and the US about .2% of the entire population has already died of Covid. So even assuming everyone in the US, Italy, France, UK Spain, Poland, etc. has already had Covid – which is obviously absurd – THE CASE FATALITY RATE MUST BE AT LEAST .2%, NOT .1% A more reasonable assumption, for example that 1/3 of Americans have “had Covid”, gives a fatality rate of .6%, or SIX TIMES THAT OF SEVERE FLU. In fact less than 10% of Americans have actually been diagnosed with Covid, and the fatality rate for those diagnosed is about 2% -TWENTY TIMES THAT OF SEVERE FLU, although it is now going down because all the old people have been vaccinated. Yet “scientists” at Stanford are still pedaling the .1% figure, although they surely know it isn’t based in reality. It is simply a lie, and we must wonder why they are telling it. Who is helped by spreading this garbage from Stanford?
And on top of that the actual quote from reference number 5 is this –

“This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.”

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&hl=en&as_sdt=0,7&cluster=4190197419714426109

Notice the difference between saying the “clinical consequences are similar to those of severe seasonal flu” and saying “This suggests [but obviously doesn’t prove] that … Covid 19 may ultimately prove to be more akin to [ i.e. closer to] …a severe seasonal influenza.. [with .1% case fatality rate] rather than to a disease similar to SARS or MERS which have had case fatality rates of 9% to 10% and 36%, respectively.”

All he (Fauci) is saying is that even a 1% fatality rate is closer to a .1% fatality rate than it is to a 10% fatality rate. And yes 1% is closer to .1% than it is to 10%. But its still 10 times worse than .1%, Covid is 10 times more fatal than the seasonal flu.

Also, thankfully others crushed the author
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/apr/16/diamond-and-silk/medical-hypotheses-journal-article-lacks-evidence-/


56 posted on 04/20/2021 9:52:05 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weatheryour)
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To: brookwood
The amazing thing about the link to reference number 5 is that that article was co-written by Anthony Fauci. It would be amazing if Fauci said the fatality rate for Covid was .1%, given that .4% of New York City died of Covid. In Europe and the US about .2% of the entire population has already died of Covid. So even assuming everyone in the US, Italy, France, UK Spain, Poland, etc. has already had Covid – which is obviously absurd – THE CASE FATALITY RATE MUST BE AT LEAST .2%, NOT .1% A more reasonable assumption, for example that 1/3 of Americans have “had Covid”, gives a fatality rate of .6%, or SIX TIMES THAT OF SEVERE FLU. In fact less than 10% of Americans have actually been diagnosed with Covid, and the fatality rate for those diagnosed is about 2% -TWENTY TIMES THAT OF SEVERE FLU, although it is now going down because all the old people have been vaccinated. Yet “scientists” at Stanford are still pedaling the .1% figure, although they surely know it isn’t based in reality. It is simply a lie, and we must wonder why they are telling it. Who is helped by spreading this garbage from Stanford?

The medical establishment needs to give it to us straight... the good the bad and the ugly.

57 posted on 04/20/2021 10:00:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (We need a better class of 'elites' - the ones we have now are more like monied white trash...)
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To: brookwood

Case Fatality has some utility in the middle of a pandemic but one cannot use midpandemic or earlier CFR data to make a sweeping generalization about a disease’s overall mortality. Once the pandemic is over, you can do that but not until then. There are way too many variables built into midpandemic and earlier CFRs. It only serves as a snapshot in time but it frequently gets misused to make a statement like Covid has a .1% fatality rate”.


60 posted on 04/20/2021 10:57:52 AM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: brookwood

Yep even reliable debunkers like Snopes says the study is BS, and Stanford says the guy is not employed there.

So lets all just be good boys and girls and mask up at all times - even when sleeping because you never know when the kids might jump in bed with you.

Our betters have informed us ignorant peasants on the scientific consensus of masking and Dr Flaccid approves.


65 posted on 04/21/2021 4:48:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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