If you had Covid, do you still need the vaccine?

American Institute of Economic Research via NOQ Report ^ | Paul E Alexander MSc PhD, Howard C. Tenenbaum DDS, Dip. Perio., PhD, , Dr. Parvez Dara, MD, MBA

[Osage Orange]

Well there are people like you...and people like me.

Fair enough...

[SeekAndFind]

RE: They both had recently gotten the mNRA vax. Not sure which one...trying to find out (but this is, understandably, a difficult time).

Sorry to hear this. My condolences.

Do you believe there was a causation? Why did he still take the mRNA vaccine seeing that he already had natural antibodies from the infection? Were his antibody levels inadequate?

The only consolation is he left this world under the best conditions - in his sleep. That’s the way I want to go too when my time comes.

[BeauBo]

It seems to be true, that contracting COVID confers very strong future immunity. They probably don’t need the vaccine.

It is hard to detect or confirm if someone had COVID however, after a couple of months have passed.

I suspect that plays a role in the CDC wanting everybody to get the vaccine - just to be sure.

Even if you have had the disease previously, or some vaccine, another vaccine booster shot (or two) would likely further increase immunity some marginal amount.

[JusPasenThru]

Executive summary please.

[tbw2]

Friends of ours who had the virus were just told they MUST get the vaccine. The mother brought up that she’d had it, and they said doesn’t matter, new variants, get the vaccine.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: new variants, get the vaccine.

And how good are the vaccines for the variants vs. the natural immunity you already acquired from the original infection? Did they answer this?

[metmom]

So sorry for your loss.

[Jan_Sobieski]

Why don’t the hospitals get paid 36K for this likely vaccine death as they do with likely COVID diagnosis/ deaths?

[Jane Long]

Agree....especially the non-disclosed FR mNRA ‘experts’.

Recognizing and/or even studying the danger of vaxxing those with natural immunity (which is likely 70% of us, now....including kids, young adults, etc) isn’t putting $$ in their BigPharma pockets.

😡

This brings back memories of when we first read about the people who’d been vax’d for SARS1 being the ones most severely effected, when they were exposed to this virus. (Early on, when china virus was first becoming known, here.) As if the vax had compromised their natural immunity/system, and made them MORE suseptible to dying, from this new SARS virus.

[tiki]

No, if you didn’t develop antibodies from having it then the vaccination wouldn’t work either.

[zek157]

Insane taking the vaccine after having covid. Had to explain my position yesterday at work to the boss. He fortunately understood, at least it appeared so. Also talked to a couple young healthy guys that recovered and plan on taking it. I explained to one why I wouldn’t. To the other I said nothing to as the effort wouldn’t be appreciated. Very sad they are advised to go ahead and “feel” safer in doing it.

[zek157]

Have tried pointing that out with zero impact.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Insane taking the vaccine after having covid

Their argument is and always will be ( so I’ve heard ) that your Covid-19 antibodies after infection only protects you from the particular Virus that infected you, but it does not protect you from variants.

The counter question is this — Do the vaccines protect you from the variants?

[Jane Long]

The only consolation is he left this world under the best conditions - in his sleep.

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That’s what hubby and I have been saying, to each other, and to friends, since we got the news.

Thank you.

His wife/family are shocked....as this was totally unexpected. No causation, that they have mentioned, or have said. That is the shocking part.

No idea why they got it....other than....like I’ve seen in a lot of folks....they felt it was the thing to do to ‘keep everyone safe....and, to get back to normal’. If I hear that one more time....I’ll cry, now.

Not sure about the antibodies, either. I have mentioned (on several threads) that other friends of ours (in their 50s) ... excellent health...both had it a year ago. They donate blood, on a regular basis...and, are still being told that they have the antibodies. They have NO plans to get the vax, thankfully. Especially, now.

I’m pretty sure they aren’t testing these folks, for their antibody levels, when they’re showing up at drive-thru-style, vax machine-speed shot locations.

[Jane Long]

Ha! Two words.....Big Pharma, I guess.

[Jane Long]

Thx. It’s so crazy....still processing.

[ransomnote]

Sad side note....we found out, this evening, that a dear family friend passed away, in his sleep, overnight.

His wife had gone in, to wake him, and he had passed. No known illness, or malaise, at all, prior.

They had recently spent Easter Sunday with family and sent out several pics, of all looking happy and well.

70 years old and no current health issues or meds.

They had both had China virus, last year. Hers was a milder case, and she recovered, quickly, without issues.

His was a bit more serious....he had double pneumonia, with his, but recovered at home, without hospitalization.

They both had recently gotten the mNRA vax. Not sure which one...trying to find out (but this is, understandably, a difficult time).

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How many Covid deaths are there, really?

I think the elderly received the worst of the biowarfare first assault by being denied medications and having their nursing homes infected with imported Covid-19 patients.

I think the elderly are receiving the worse of the 2nd assault, as I've read so many anecdots that say, "Well, he was old..." even after describing the shock caused by the death of the hale, hearty active senior!

It seems like someone forced the death of a patient's following vaccination; the data entry person tried their hardest to relay that they somehow knew it was unrelated to Covid-19. medical information they couldn't possibly have. But how many are not forced to report?

The record below sounds like we're just not supposed to bother to ask. I checked the full account and no one bothered to fill out the details as if to say, "Why bother?"

I've seen so many anecdotes about the elderly. One woman began, "Well she was a memory care patient but..." and like the anedotes I commonly read, they describe a thriving elderly person who's health dove following the vaccine. 

I mean, we do know that about our loved ones. We know to read the signs of health and their doctors monitor and then vaccination - POOF! And we're just supposed to say it was natural, although there's no proof. If we say it isn't natural, the shills demand proof! 

Father in Heaven, please shield the elderly from their relentless attackers.

[Jane Long]

Symptom(s): Death

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Yes, I’d say that was a definite ‘symptom’.

Unreal.

😡

[HereInTheHeartland]

1) Of course it will protect you
2) yes it will keep you from spreading it
3) This is an issue President Trump tried to address. We all have had little patience with the multi year wait times to get new life saving drugs to market. The FDA has a huge amount of hurdles. So are we ok with going back to that long government delay in getting new promising drugs out?
Or are we ok with shorter wait times?

[Captain Peter Blood]

Already had the virus bit then went on and got the vaccine, why? It really wasn’t going to do him much good.