Posted on 03/28/2021 6:01:01 AM PDT by EBH
I agree completely. The tracking people are allowing by this is typically innane and mostly useless but is intrusive and disturbing especially with the current crop of phone apps that are constantly listening in and tracking your location without people realizing it. The Supreme Court refusing to dismiss the case against Facebook was interesting.
The traitors are in the government that has been spying on us.
I didn’t click on it because I wasn’t sure of the meaning of that phrase, (”and the ‘click’ to OK glass screens”); thank you for the clarification.
I don't think he's a hero or a traitor, he's a whistle blower of the most simple definition. He realized what he was involved in was outrageous in a free country with a limited government.
Nobody can tell you or me anything good that the NSA has done because if they told us they would have to kill us, but the truth probably is they haven't done any good whatsoever. Nothing this data collection effort does is about preventing crime or wars, it is only about damaging political enemy's. And politics doesn't mean democrats and republicans any more. It's us against them.
One last word on Snowden. He changed nothing. A minor exposure of truth in a world filled with lies. The recent election fraud and riot at the capitol are proof they have won and we have lost, at least he got away.
Snowden paid a high price warning the rest of us about 'intelligence' crimes...
Snowden is no hero. Anyone thinking such is either an ignorant fool or misinformed and misguided.
The NSA led by Admiral Mike Rogers kept within their bounds. However, they were obligated to grant access to certain members of the Obama Administration like Brennan and certain members of Congress. Some of those granted access criminally abused their privileges and shared information. When Adm Rogers found out, he shut them down and reported the incidents even as Obama was behind those illegally accessing the NSA spytools. That was Obama’s MO, the same as when he was an Illinois State Senator, using private information against his opponents.
Obama’s people sought to fire Rogers for bogus reasons but that was not straightforward as Rogers had many friends in NSA that supported him. It became evident that NSA could not be controlled even if Rogers were to be removed.
Brennan and his superiors at the time were seeking any means to recover ability to use advanced NSA spytools.
It boiled down to a fight for survival between the CIA and NSA. NSA had advanced so far technologically that the CIA would be made obsolete.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-q-group-the-directorate-hunting-down-edward-snowden
Understand historically that NSA was loyal to the US military whereas the CIA had become de facto enforcers for international bankers and the globalist agenda.
Brennan and his group within CIA found a low level CIA analyst Snowden whose coworkers thought him a loner and misfit. Brennan arranged that Snowden be ‘processed’ as a civilian contractor separating him from the agency and placed with a beefed up resume in a spook body shop called Booz-Allen.
NSA hired Snowden who proceeded to executing his mission to steal NSA spytools. In typical leftist fashion of false narratives, Snowden was martyred as ‘exposing’ wrongdoing at NSA and was made a darling of Hollywood in a film of his name.
Those who believe Snowden is an innocent hero have the same mindset believing Biden is a legitimate President. They believe the lies the media feeds them.
And your argument that “everybody should have known” the NSC was spying on all your emails and cell phone calls is ridiculous.
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NSA not NSC. The National Security Counsel (NSC) is not engaged in collecting intel. The NSC is a foreign policy decision making agency, staffed by presidential appointees.
Well, I guess you would have had to have worked at or for NSA to know what their mission is, as I did, else you could have just read any of the several books on the subject available at your public library. As the courts say: ignorance of the law is no excuse, so here - ignorance of your government is no excuse.
The MSN line is he merely released public phone meta data collection and some other odds and ends. Which makes him a hero to some. But that is nothing new, and is actually old information and a deliberate MSN lie to distract from the very real damage he did. NSA had to virtually rebuild everything from the ground up, costing billions of taxpayer dollars, plus find new overseas operatives to replace the ones who were shot or disappeared as a result of Snowjob’s betrayal.
Snowjob is a bad guy, and that does information does not come from the MSN, but from old friends from my NSA days and a few obscure interviews which was taken down within days of release.
That you do not understand the seriousness of stealing NSA’s Methods and Means of electronic collection and code breaking, plus stealing the names of the the personnel involved in foreign collection, proves hows little you know about how our government works to keep us all safe, how little you know about foreign policy and military information collection. This is before 0bama politicized the intel community, you understand.
He should have been shot out of hand. Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were electrocuted for less.
The traitors are in the government that has been spying on us.
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They were not traitors until 0bams politicized the Intel community nor is that their mission. Do you realize the shear volume of data collected? Finding your personal phone meta data, if there were any reason to do so, is a labor of Heracles. No one was spying on you then, nor is it worth the time an energy to randomly spy on anyone today.
When small-minded people are incapable of discussing issues band opinions logically, they resort to name-calling and ad hominem attacks.
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To whom are you referring here?
DHS Preparing to Use Private Contractors to “Scour Public Data and Social Media” To Compile Dissident Citizens for Watch List and No Fly Lists
3/26/2021, 5:34:41 AM · by gattaca · 62 replies
The Last Refuge ^ | March 25, 2021 | Sundance
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is now getting ready to hire public companies, individual contractors outside government, to scour public data and social media in order to provide information for the new “domestic terror watch lists.” From the description it appears DHS is going to pay “big tech” (Google, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, SnapChat, Twitter, etc.), via contracts, to hire and organize internal monitoring teams to assist the government by sending information on citizens they deem “dangerous.” Gee, what could possibly go wrong with this?… NBC is reporting on these new developments as the U.S. intelligence apparatus is preparing to...
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3945339/posts
Google repeatedly hands over user data to law enforcement without a warrant
3/25/2021, 10:13:44 PM · by Tolerance Sucks Rocks · 17 replies
Reclaim The Net ^ | March 25, 2021 | Didi Rankovic
Google is turning over user data to US law enforcement, even when requests for that come without a warrant, in the form of requests that are not court-ordered. That emerges from information shared with the LA Times by an anonymous Google user, who said they were notified about this in an email from the tech giant, who said the request came from the Department of Homeland Security, without including the request itself in the email. When this Google user asked to see the document, it turned out to be an administrative subpoena issued by the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE),...
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3945293/posts
DHS weighing major changes to fight domestic violent extremism, say officials
3/26/2021, 8:15:22 PM · by MtnClimber · 53 replies
NBC News ^ | 25 Mar, 2021 | Ken Dilanian and Julia Ainsley
WASHINGTON — The Department of Homeland Security, which was created after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to protect the country from international terrorism, is moving toward a sweeping set of policy changes to detect and stop what intelligence officials say is now a top threat: domestic violent extremism. Two senior Biden administration officials said DHS, whose intelligence division did not publish a warning of potential violence before the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, is seeking to improve its ability to collect and analyze data about domestic terrorism — including the sorts of public social media posts that threatened an attack on...
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3945575/posts
We conservatives are all Whistleblowers now. We are all Edward Snowdens now. It’s just a matter of time before we are hunted...
“When did Snowden go to Beijing? I thought he flew to Honk Kong.”
Just a little detail. Not important.
He gave us a glimpse of the massive deep state that has taken over our government by reaching into all of our private lives and then manipulating our elections with technology and psyops to steal an election — and make us believe it was real.
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What part of “this is before 0bama politicized the intel community, you understand.” did you not understand?
Brigitte Gabriel had a great Speech about this at some event where she said the silent majority are Irrelevant.
It should be printed up and distributed everywhere.
It’s worth searching for on youtube
I need to look that up. Thanks.
“By exposing how our government is illegally spying on its citizens and destroying our Constitutional rights?”
By your blaming a government you helped put there is no different than his telling you it is not your fault this happened. The voters are the problem, not the people elected to do exactly what they could get way with and the voters let them.
At the local level, only two governors have ever been successfully recalled and a third one impeached. In 1921, Governor Lynn Frazier of North Dakota was recalled during a dispute about state-owned industries. In 2003, Governor Gray Davis of California was recalled over the state budget. Additionally, in 1988, a recall was approved against Governor Evan Mecham of Arizona.
In our Constitution, there is no mechanism for voters to remove a representative or senator once they are elected for their term. So the only way to get them is not elect them and/or elect someone else. Therefore that leaves the responsibility of putting and keeping the right people in to “do the right thing” up to the voters.
There is a mechanism for removing a president and it has been displayed, and I feel misused, during our history, But only three United States presidents have been impeached, although none were convicted: Andrew Johnson in 1868, Bill Clinton in 1998, and Donald Trump in 2019 and 2021. So that brings up the purpose of an impeachment process. It is an opinion of a majority of the house to impeach a president but it takes a 2/3 majority to remove in the senate.
So I hope you begin to see that the process of controlling our government, which is in the hands of the people by their voting process, and is the only way to keep control, is not being utilized properly and the people that are getting voted in are the wrong people so the actions of our representatives are not being checked on or even looked at, then the fault is a lot more to the people. So when a person, Snowden, whose actions violated the Espionage Act of 1917, which identifies the leak of state secrets as an act of treason, it is very cut and dry that he broke the law and he should be punished for it.
And if the voters that put people in they did not research and knowingly gave them carte blanc to do what they wish as a group, then you can be assured they will. And that’s the voters’ fault.
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By exposing our government’s entire information gathering network and all the Chinese citizens that were working for us to the CCP? Then he ran to the Chinese, then he ran to the Russians. Funny thing for a “patriot” to do.
How old are you?
You’re Stating all this like you’ve just had a blinding flash of the obvious, and need to share it with the world.
We’ve been saying all that here at free republic since Bill Clinton was molesting interns.
Now the uniparties have just gone as far as stealing elections.
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