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To: Rurudyne
They are not owed a penny. Not the thinnest of dimes. We are simply not in any way in arrears to black people in this country.

Trillions of dollars (someone posted the estimate amount here previously) went to government programs and monetary stipends to blacks since the Great Society began in 1964 under Lyndon Johnson.

No way to measure the amounts such as denied chances to a top university education for a white son or daughter, denied professional job opportunities and promotions so arbitrary percentages are met as quotas and denied chance for your business or construction contract because of "set asides".

Agree that many black people are now achieving at high standards in all walks of life and many would not have done this if denied a chance due to racism, but since 1964 does every black person still need a hand-up due to lack of a chance? Civil rights laws protect them from egregious discrimination, not a guarantee of outcome equality.

57 posted on 03/03/2021 9:36:32 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud, harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: frank ballenger

I will go further.

After the civil war there were very many dirt poor and destitute people, both white and black. Out of these from both demographic only a few escaped poverty to become rich and those that did generally did so because they changed what they were doing, or had always seen poor white farmers doing before the end of slavery.

Opposition in society far greater than we see now (or even saw mid last century) did not stop those few blacks anymore that supposedly being privileged in society enabled the majority of poor white folk to escape poverty.

All anyone had to do to remain poor was just keep doing what they’d been doing.

That remains true today even when black people, poor or not, face so little racism that they’ve got time to feel oppressed by inanimate objects and name given to stuff.

To be blunt, one generation is always enough when people change what they’ve been doing in a good way.

Consider Botswana in Africa. At gaining independence it was the poorest and least educated backwater in all of Africa, with less than a handful who had what was then considered a high school education. With that the people of Botswana didn’t have natural resources either. They had bupkiss.

But within a few decades because their people and leaders respected and admired men like Washington rather than Robespierre or Lenin, their economy and other indicators shot up dramatically. As countries with seemingly everything in their favor, educated people and even oil, faltered while their presidents for life emulated Lenin little Botswana essentially came to be second only to South Africa in subsaharan Africa.

The fault is frequently not in the stars of the persistent poor but in themselves as they generationally keep on doing variations on a theme ... race doesn’t matter.

But you will have difficulty keeping a successful man down if they choose to not see all that is against them as determining their fate.


82 posted on 03/03/2021 12:05:48 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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