Posted on 03/02/2021 7:51:43 AM PST by JosephJames
“That’s because the “vaccine” is leaky.”
If I understand that, we’re creating a super coronavirus with the vaccinations?
1. This article (which has been posted many times) is getting a bit old, and is based on older data, before really large scale vaccination had been going.
2. The humans who took part in the vaccine trials, starting almost a year ago, have not shown the predicted mass die-off, hyper-reactive cytokine storm reactions after exposure to COVID.
3. Over 100 million people have been vaccinated globally. Over 50 million in the USA have received a first shot. Over half the population of Israel, and over 90% of their people over age 50 have already received a first (Pfizer) shot.
Its time to start looking at the actual results, rather than the theoretical.
Blurb2350 wrote: “It’s been hypothesized that the hyper-immune response that this “vaccine” (sneer quotes because it’s not a true vaccine)”
Why do you say this is not a vaccine?
“This is why I skipped the 2nd shot.”
The first and second shots are exactly the same - formulation and dosage.
“You do not vaccinate people who aren’t at risk from a disease You also don’t set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn’t been extensively tested on human subjects.”
And I expect the MSM in the USA and Kanadahar to report this...
...crickets...
Well, Biden hasn’t really done “too much” damage in his 1st month-or-so in office either... let’s give it a few months and see the real damage being done. These experimental products have only killed 1/3 the number of U.S. citizens required to start a war on terrorism... so far.
Don’t do it. I have kept this to myself for quite some time because I don’t want to get anyone in trouble or have them forced to take the vaccine against their wishes: No one, I mean NO ONE at Pfizer is taking the vax. Wonder why that is?
I’m sorry your son and daughter-in-law are putting you in this position (I suspect it’s the daughter-in-law, lucky you). But if the time comes and someone down the line will have to take care of the baby because their parents are dead or incapacitated because of the vaccine .... it might very well be you, if you’re healthy and haven’t polluted your body with chemicals.
“I have 5+ comorbidities and get immune reactions almost daily”
Immune reactions are a contra-indication for the vaccine.
“I was in hospital for 12 days last year with Covid”
People who have had confirmed cases of COVID, may not need two shots of vaccine.
I have heard reports that policy is being reviewed, to possibly recommend just a single shot in those cases, but I don’t know what the official position is. It makes sense that having the disease works to develop immunity, like a vaccine shot might.
Immune response seems very strong in those who have previously had COVID. Better than most vaccine shots.
Pull out a dictionary (a real book, not Google) and look at the definition of “vaccine.” You can figure it out for yourself.
There are quick covid tests you can
Order online. It takes 15 minutes.
Do one in your daughters driveway. If you test negative, that is better evidence that you don’t have covid than Getty’s shot.
Wait, I thought we were all following the science?
If that were the case, and not just some arrogant platitude to shut down opposing views, then why is a vaccine needed for - for the entire nation - for a malady with a 99.8% survival rate? Also, if one gets the vaccination, why must they continue to socially distance. And if they received a vaccine, and continue to socially distance, then why do they need to wear a mask?
It is sheer lunacy that I watch otherwise apparently intelligent people walk around parking lots fully masked. People driving alone, with a mask. The guy at Costco with two masks on! I’m telling you, people have lost their minds.
From what I’ve read the second dose is the booster which has much more vaccine in it. IMO this is why it has a higher reaction rate. What affected my reluctance to get the second shot was several factors:
1) Encountering Covid+ family members 10 days after the first shot. Then 3 days later getting swollen feet and hands and painful joints along with heart and kidney pains. This had not happened before.
2) After my ‘covid-encounter adverse reaction’ I did web research and discovered a youtube from a retired virologist (?) lady who said the mRNA vaccine would cause a Lupus-like attack on organs after the anti bodies it spins up successfully repel Covid. Nothing left to do other than attack the cells hosting the mRNA the antibodies are coded to attack. Since many more antibodies are produced to deal with a ‘Covid encounter’ there will be many more to attack the body once Covid is repulsed.
3) After my covid-encounter reaction I decided I’d stick with the 1st shot’s 60% efficacy at preventing covid Sickness. That’s the important part to me. Covid infection is unavoidable imo but the worry is getting the full sickness when it overwhelms the body. The 1st shot gets the immune system on standby ready to respond. I’ll stick with that.
4) I still get occasional heart and kidney pains and clouded urine neither of which I had before the 1st shot. IMO it will take up to 3 years to rid the body of the mRNA with the low-level immune response to cells hosting the mRNA. I can deal with a low level friendly-fire attack on my body but don’t want a larger or longer attack.
That’s basically my thoughts on it. YMMV. To each their own. Freedom of choice and liberty always.
“Well, Biden hasn’t really done “too much” damage in his 1st month-or-so in office either... let’s give it a few months and see the real damage being done.”
That is a false analogy. We can clearly see definite harmful actions from Biden, starting from day 1.
That is not the case with these vaccines. Their argument is that even though we have NOT seen what they predict, it is coming.
A more apt analogy would be the global warming alarmists, who keep warning that something we don’t see yet, will occur - and then keep pushing out the timeline, when it doesn’t happen.
The vaccine conspiracy theorists said that when vaccinated people would be exposed to the virus, they would (in mass) have catastrophic and fatal over-reactions. Didn’t happen. Then they said it would take three months. Then six.
Well the people from the early trials have been going for about a year now, and people by the tens of millions have been getting vaccinated all over the world.
So far, there is no more of a reaction than is typical for most vaccines. In the real world.
[[The second dose would supposedly subtract at least one day of health from your life. ]]
As long as that day is tax day, I don’t mind
Up until they changed the definition of a vaccine in the past couple of months, a vaccine was a preparation of a weakened or killed pathogen, such as a bacterium or virus, or of a portion of the pathogen’s structure that upon administration to an individual stimulates antibody production or cellular immunity against the pathogen but is incapable of causing severe infection. There has always been two requirements for vaccine approval... 1) heighten immunity 2) stop transmission.
First, the Pfeizer and Moderna products are entirely synthetic... Second, these products do not give immunity or stop transmission... They weren’t even tested to meet these requirements.
Also, look at Moderna’s own website...
https://www.modernatx.com/mrna-technology/mrna-platform-enabling-drug-discovery-development
“Our Operating System
Recognizing the broad potential of mRNA science, we set out to create an mRNA technology platform that functions very much like an operating system on a computer. It is designed so that it can plug and play interchangeably with different programs. In our case, the “program” or “app” is our mRNA drug - the unique mRNA sequence that codes for a protein.
We have a dedicated team of several hundred scientists and engineers solely focused on advancing Moderna’s platform technology. They are organized around key disciplines and work in an integrated fashion to advance knowledge surrounding mRNA science and solve for challenges that are unique to mRNA drug development. Some of these disciplines include mRNA biology, chemistry, formulation & delivery, bioinformatics and protein engineering.”
You can decide for yourself if you would like to take a so-called “vaccine” from a company solely focused on advancing their platform technology (not to benefit your health.)
You’re a loony.
“That is a false analogy. We can clearly see definite harmful actions from Biden, starting from day 1.”
I was just being snarky concerning Biden. It is obvious to anyone paying attention that he is doing considerable damage to our Republic. I was just trying to make a point that things are going to get much worse and those that don’t see proof now definitely will see it in the coming months.
and most,who can’t see it already, won’t admit it when its staring them in the face.
Or,they will find away to blame exiled President Trump.
[[That’s because the “vaccine” is leaky. It does not confer sterilizing immunity because vaccination does not prevent infection with the virus. Infection of the host and the transmission of the virus are not inhibited by the vaccine.]]
True BUT... this virus on its own is 99.6% survivable overall. When fol,folks, bet vaccinated, they are far less likely to transmit the virus because 1 the viral load is significantly if the person get sthe virus, th a nks to the vaccine, and 2 even if the person does become symptomatic, they Will Not be coughing and sneezing nearly as bad as they would have without the vaccine, so they will not be spreading it nearly as much, and again, the viral load Wil, be greatly reduced, so that is a plus too if they become symptomatic According to docs discussing the issue.
A d don’t forget, we are reaching g herd immunity soon, April I thjnk they 3stimated. So all this is gonna be moot soon anyways supposedly, if there is any truth to the herd immunity stuff.
Trying to make my mind u
Whether to just stay o. Ivermectin, get the virus. Get natuea, immunity that way, or get the vaccine. In high risk category. Re.atives too.. All these conflicting reports have people very confused. Myself included. Now this possigle long term stuff adds another wrinkle to the story. Just when I seem to be settled one way or the other, along comes another article to cause doubt. I had seen this articles premise before though, but not in such detail.
Now we find a vaccine “could be” setting up the masses for the creati o n of a more deadly form possibly... key word possibly. Ugggh
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