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To: Melinator2
In that specific circumstance if you were presented with that evidence, would you support adding a simple set of green front brake lights?

I am not in favor of adding more government mandates. There is an added issue of red-green color blindness, which more people have than you might think. It is not a problem with traffic lights because position reveals as much as color. Red, yellow and white (reverse lights) have different brightness levels. Red and green, not so much.

I probably have a higher tolerance for the existence of traffic accidents, just as I do with the possibility of contracting the CCP virus and dying. Keep in mind, for years I drove cars that didn't even have emergency flashers (you turn on the right turn signal to make the point) and other times I have driven cars with bad brake light connectors and USED hand signals (which aren't even IN the current road manuals in AZ). My point is, I didn't feel like I was personally at great risk even though I didn't have even a minimal set of lights working, so I am slow to impose them on society at large.

A friend of mine worked at Maryland DOT decades ago, and looked at the studies, trying to make driving perfectly safe. His conclusion was that if we put governors on all the cars at 10 mph, we could get highway fatalities close to zero.

Years ago, when the third brake light was introduced, car shops offered add-on kits for older cars. I wouldn't tough such a thing, but obviously some people did. I wouldn't mind making front green brake lights legal (they probably aren't, lighting rules are pretty strict) for those who would like to add them, or for those car companies who want to add them.

Years ago, GM threw daytime running lights on all their cars, and lobbied hard to make them mandatory. Fortunately they failed. Besides issues in weak battery situations, they are a problem on military bases where lights out is sometimes an issue. Plus, of course, an extra set of relays and wires and switches, etc.

On a related subject, how do you feel about e-code lights? I ran some Hella e-codes on one of my Darts and they were GREAT, though technically illegal in most U.S. states unless NHTSA or US DOT made some changes that I hadn't heard of. I wouldn't want to make them mandatory, even though they light the road better, but they shouldn't be illegal in the U.S.
131 posted on 02/13/2021 6:08:34 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I love e-code headlights. I used to run e-code Hella H4 6014’s back in the day. They were superior in all ways to anything else available at the time.

The Hella’s had a straight line on the road and it v’ed up in the right ditch.

The only problem was pulling them every year and readjusting the old sealed beams at inspection time and then putting it all back again.


135 posted on 02/13/2021 6:18:59 PM PST by Clay Moore (Mega prayers, Rush )
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To: Dr. Sivana

I dont mind the superbright white light stuff. I dont run it because some people are sensitive. I am on highway mostly and see all kinds of big transport and trucks running stuff that makes your eyes bleed. I just look at the road. It makes it tough to see deer jumping out the bush, but Deer Smasher... nuf said


136 posted on 02/13/2021 6:23:00 PM PST by Melinator2 (Normal Life Please!!)
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