Posted on 02/08/2021 12:20:48 PM PST by Mr. K
Once again you talk about “splitting the party”
The party is useless, and has been for years.
Why stay with it? This is my main question.
It is ALL the useless party hierarchy too. I don’t believe it can be fixed.
Yes.
The existing GOP would beg for Tump party support- but then we’d end up with what we have.
I’ve seen many who ask for GOP and CONSERVATIVE party support... then screw over the conservatives who joined in to endorse them.
At least half the existing GOP office holders
Your reason #1 is why we cannot ‘fix’ the existing GOP party.
Too many people that have been running it for DECADES.
The party is more than just the office-holders- there are thousands more party bureaucrats running day-to-day operations. They are all entrenched.
I have been at this for 45+ years with the Republican Party EVERYONE look at your country right now take a GOOD HARD LOOK, speech being silenced, businesses being closed, churches being closed, election fraud left to stand, education is indoctrination WHAT THE HELL has the Republican Party fought for to STOP any of this WHAT?? DECADES there have been ONE PARTY the uni party I AM BEYOND DONE!! The Republican Party is not redeemable it is NOT!!!
Not if all Trump supporters joined.
That is my whole point. Who would stay?
We’ve been trying to ‘fix’ the existing GOP party for decades now.
Since Rush Limbaugh came on the scene, at least, and it became a thing.
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You have no clue as to the WHIG party history
Would you change that to join a Trump party? There is strength in numbers.
Start-ups do not usually START with 70 million supporters.
Yeah? Call your local GOP party offices and see who has been fired over the last 30 years, despite losing year after year.
good analysis- That’s exactly what I am thinking.
The existing GOP party would be crapping its pants at a 65% drop in membership. THEY would be a ‘third party’ (or less).
And the ‘split the vote and hand it to the democrats’ argument does not matter because the existing UNIPARTY wins either way, with the old, useless GOP.
And you know this how? Did I even speak about the WHIG party? Much less speak incorrectly?
Or perhaps you posted to the wrong person. That happens.
My point exactly.
The existing GOP party officials have been useless for decades.
I remember a joke from (or maybe ABOUT) Bob Dole nearly 4 decades ago- If the Democrats voted to kill all Republicans the GOP ‘compromise’ would be to phase it in over 5 years.
That is how the democrats got this far. They propose something horrible, the GOP (instead of stopping it) phases it in. Look at Obamacare... 6 years of funding BEFORE it ever actually did anything major.
Thank you, My family cannot take credit for all of the post, a great many Patriots here over many different posts gave great ideas and thoughts, we put it together and then began to flesh it out.
After today’s kangaroo court efforts and the constant Bidet EO stream along with illegal alien floods approaching ALL, My guess is that we will have about 110 Million New Party Members within a Month of the New Party being officially Formed.
We are no longer wishing for change, we Know there will be change and we shall be the strongest Party this Nation has ever seen.
Blessings
After todays Kabuki Theatre the reasoning of statement by one of PDJT lawyers in stating that the only reason that they were all there was that they live in Fear of him returning, thus this “in effect” sham proceedings.
You could hear a pin drop in Alaska when he said that, they knew it, he voiced it and it will be meme ready by now.
Given that we are going to have a New Party I am going to flesh out more of the realities of what can be produced by doing so, and the greatfully sent to me info on Precinct Chairman position efforts.
If we are going to get things done here to flesh out our future then we are going to succeed BIGLY. I have still yet to find or hear from anyone on this “orange man bad no can hold office” rant they are looking to pin on Our President, and if office holder of a Corporation or PAC or whatever the Legal entity would be to form and direct a New Party would look like and if this “not hold office” actually is for Public Office in Government, a Government position (seems logical) Thus PDJT would NOT be holding a Govt position, and as shareholders (yes, I went there, think about it, if we are fighting corporate wars then we are to be Corporate, with shareholders) That entity would Fund by legal means the Political Party Entity.
Please readers do not think this is stupid, because right now we are fighting against what the TIME Magazine clearly stated, So, we use their strengths against them, We become the (Not for Profit ?? Entity that controls the media, Network, and Supports the New Party who takes guidance and direction from the Shareholders.
Are we not, or have been shareholders of the GOP ??
We pay them to do our bidding but have Zero power to have them do as we want, but if the New Party is ruled by the People, We The People through the Entity, then we have OUR VOICE. Not the Swamps.
This also gets around swamp rot, New Party Members do not do as told, they are sacked. We make the rules not play by those that are rooted in generations of swamp rot.
As of today we have 90+ million Thinking Americans that are in various stages of emotion, those who think if they turn the channel and watch a different show then all will be ok, through to those who like Most here know it is up to US to dig ourselves out of this Hole for our Families and Countrys Future.
90 million at $100 per person over a twelve month period, and we start the Media, IT, PAC’s, Banking, prefered Vendor STores and Companies, Realestate, you name it, the Entity though US can fund it. That means , btw one person One vote, NOT One person with lotso Money Lotso votes, thats how we got into this crap in the first place.
We plan, act, and start the future now as waiting for someone to do it for us is like trying to catch the tide in your hands and hold it at bay.
WE scare the DIRT out of the Swamp, we are self funding, self sufficient, self driven for a common goal, we cannot be bribed, we cannot be silenced, and we cannot be dealt with by force, be it confiscation or any form of illegal edict from a false entity.
WE are the USA, we dang well work, scape up scraps to feed ourselves, pay taxes, WE are the most Powerful Intelligence force for EVERY COUNTY through to EVERY State in the COUNTRY.
Their intent is to crush our morale, I borrow from a very famous reply to being crushed by overwhelming forces.
NUTS !!!!!!
Blessings to you All
If all Trump supporters left to form this new party, and the Republicans that aren’t Trump supporters stayed behind, then you’d be guaranteeing Democrat control forever. It would be just like California. The only way that any conservative policies could be enacted would be if the Trump supporting party and the Republican remainder decided to work together on something, which, coincidentally, is what already happens with both of those groups in the Republican party. If all the Republicans that AREN’T Trump supporters said “ah, screw it - if all those other people are leaving to form this new party, then I’ll join them” then what would be the point? You’d be taking X (Trump supporters) and Y (non-Trump Republicans) and moving them from one party to another.
There are good reasons to start a new party and this impeachment trial is good at making it clear.
1) Set it up to scare Rino Republicans into doing the right thing—If they do not support Trump—they will be primaried and voted out by the new party.
2) Set it up as a place for the disenfranchised Americans—a party with real ideals and goals—NOT just Pro-Trump but Pro-American. A party that can run Local elections. A Grass Roots party. Change from the bottom up.
3) a Party to REPLACE the Republicans, not just be a third wheel. America First—Not China.
4) Trump and a handful of Ex-Tea Party People could do this. A Law and Order Party to shape and mold public opinion.
5) BUT the foundation must be set! A) Need a Media outlet because the Anti-Trump Media will brand it Fascist, Racist, Homophobic, Fools, Nazis and Conmen. B) It will need a set of ideals that are universally understood and liked by a majority of people—such as Anti-Late Term Abortion, Love of country, Free Speech etc... C) It must have a solid religious base. D) It must have all the symbols in place like, a Party mascot animal (Lion?) a Party Motto (MAGA) a party Flag (Something from Revolutionary war?) A Color and symbol. It must look and feel like a real party.
It must start small and grow to become a major player fast. With Trump behind it—this could be done.
Yes, I would join, initially as a protest against the perfidious Republican party and its complete lack of principles.
I might make it permanent, if the new party could show me a strategy for a dismantling over time of the old guard. That plan might include losing a few elections, IF there is a positive direction toward dominating.
If the plan is just to be disruptive and reactive, no thanks.
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