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Death rates in Austria, Germany,Italy & Sweden in 2020 lowest in lat 10 years!
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Posted on 01/17/2021 1:14:36 PM PST by NachOsten

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1 posted on 01/17/2021 1:14:36 PM PST by NachOsten
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To: NachOsten

This is the key statistic in my mind for the US. Death counts can’t me manipulated by changing classification. If the number of deaths isn’t materially different, the political class and MSM have been lying.


2 posted on 01/17/2021 1:26:47 PM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: NachOsten

Didn’t Angela Merkel hysterically screech that up to 70% of Germans would be infected by covid with millions dying from it? Back in April I think. I am going to need to find the tie to go through the utter garbage predictions and sheer fear porn on coronavirus that was posted here on FR starting somewhere around February. What am I even saying? It would take me a lifetime to go through the sheer hysterical nonsense posted here on FR for the sole purpose of creating as much panic and hysteria as possible.


3 posted on 01/17/2021 1:28:15 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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COVID-19 CURES DEATH — at least for some. Who knew?


4 posted on 01/17/2021 1:31:04 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: alternatives?

Emmy Award Winner Cuomo held New York hostage until the Democrats took over the government. Best performance by a person portraying a governor since Huey Long.

5 posted on 01/17/2021 1:34:39 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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To: NachOsten

Holy Moses, they never open the schools or restaurants again. Especially considering that Sweden, that didn’t panic, had the smallest improvement.


6 posted on 01/17/2021 1:36:35 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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To: NachOsten

Just a sprinkle of cold water on this is its hard to get killed when locked down in your basement, rather than out dating serials killers, getting hit by busses, crashing fast cars, skiing quadruple diamond runs, diving in shark infested waters and all the other normal and customary ways people die when out and about.


7 posted on 01/17/2021 1:39:27 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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Yep, cuts down on the “Dumb Ways to Die”....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw


8 posted on 01/17/2021 1:41:36 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NachOsten

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9 posted on 01/17/2021 1:44:02 PM PST by dadfly
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To: NachOsten

Comparing different sources. Never a good sign. Surely the pink source had estimates in prior years, so why compare apples to oranges?


10 posted on 01/17/2021 1:44:25 PM PST by dangus
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Anyone checked the USA CDC deaths annually numbers...or their states numbers?


11 posted on 01/17/2021 1:45:02 PM PST by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

For me total deaths for 2020 versus prior five years is the best indicator. I think it is just classification noise.


12 posted on 01/17/2021 1:48:16 PM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: dangus

Huh?


13 posted on 01/17/2021 1:53:53 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: NachOsten

Mixing two different data sources, for one thing, but the bulk of the problem -

The numbers for 2020 seem to have been incomplete when this was compiled, probably because the data is from before the end of the year. This is not mentioned in the table, though it might have been in the original article or the notes were left out.

Checking the countrymeters.info entry for Sweden - https://countrymeters.info/en/Sweden - as it stands now, it shows 2020 deaths as 94,941, vs 91,963 on the table, which is exactly as one would expect as I note above. At some point these countries will have full demographic data for 2020, which is taken from civil records. This is lagged differently for different countries. The US is lagged by almost two months for instance, for reasonably complete data.

You have to be very careful about data. This table is extremely misleading as it stands, and should not have been posted.


14 posted on 01/17/2021 2:00:45 PM PST by buwaya
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Spain does an extremely good job at this as their civil records system (Registro Civil) is extremely efficient. They also put out excellent reporting. Their basis for comparison vs “normal” is ten years.

https://www.isciii.es/QueHacemos/Servicios/VigilanciaSaludPublicaRENAVE/EnfermedadesTransmisibles/MoMo/Documents/informesMoMo2021/MoMo_Situacion%20a%2011%20de%20enero_CNE.pdf

Blue band is the ten-year range.


15 posted on 01/17/2021 2:04:21 PM PST by buwaya
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To: NachOsten

Much better comparative data for Europe is here -

https://www.euromomo.eu/


16 posted on 01/17/2021 2:06:15 PM PST by buwaya
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A table of total deaths by year for the last six calendar years at the same evaluation date after the end of the year is the clearest. Six little numbers will tell a lot.


17 posted on 01/17/2021 2:14:46 PM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Maybe it's just me but isn't that the very same graph they use to show the regular cold and flu season? Like a mirror image?

And these are just "CASES" not deaths.

Somebody has a hold of our balls and won't let go.

18 posted on 01/17/2021 2:27:18 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: buwaya

Interesting paper, but it’s racis’ ‘cause it says “negro” in multiple charts....


19 posted on 01/17/2021 2:29:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Slyfox

You make an excellent point...


20 posted on 01/17/2021 2:38:43 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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