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To: Onthebrink
Not in any way surprised: just annoyed that the army threw so much money at a clearly unusable system.

I worked in weapons development for the Marine Corps, so I saw it in all of its many evolutions - from a "combo" weapon with one 20mm 5-shot system mated to a 5.56mm rifle system, to a 20mm only, then the 25mm beast. It was always unhandy, heavy, chunky, and had a whiz-bang, battery-powered $25,000 computing gun sight that set the time on the projectile fuze by estimating the number of times the round would rotate until it got to the target's range.

Sounded great on paper - and to the civilians/rear area pogues. but in action it was a pig and the round's very expensive per shot cost was upwards of $100 per round. The 25mm round has itty-bitty frags, so chances are you'd just annoy your target and not kill him after your long exposure to his fire while your computing gunsight was getting his range.

Combat weapons need to have direct input by actual combat veterans, not be designed by JSSAP weeny civilians or weapons vendors seeking to make bucks.

There is a museum at Ft. Benning that houses a collection of these failed products of this development process: they'll undoubtedly want one of these to add to their collection.

7 posted on 12/26/2020 7:20:09 AM PST by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Chainmail

That’s why the dragonfire mortar system is far better. A single soldier can lase a target and within 18 seconds a mortar is on its way raining death from above. Whoever came up with that one is a genius.

Have a happy new year Sir.


11 posted on 12/26/2020 7:52:32 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Chainmail

Primary feature was the distance-set detonation of a 25mm frag round.

Rumor is an early demo had a high ranking officer test fire the weapon.
The ranged detonation worked as set.
The range was set to one meter.


12 posted on 12/26/2020 7:58:36 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: Chainmail

Speaking of museums at Benning, any idea if we’re any closer to getting the tanks formerly at the Patton Museum on display?


18 posted on 12/26/2020 9:10:05 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Chainmail

“failed products of this development process”

That’s the very nature of Research and Development.

Roughly...
90% of ideas entering Research don’t get to Development.
90% of products entering Development don’t get into production and are not commercially introduced.
90% of products entering the commercial market do not succeed.

Yet you never stop your R&D pipeline.


19 posted on 12/26/2020 9:13:14 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: Chainmail

Another over designed and much too complicated device whose only real objective is to make more money.

How about an RPG? They seem to work really well.


25 posted on 12/26/2020 1:19:29 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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