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To: jmacusa

“Instead of crying over events that happened 150 years...”

No one is crying, just stating facts. A wise man once said, “Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It.” As I said, the victors won that war and they tell the story of history — truth be damned.

If you read any history and look at an electoral map, you can see relics of patterns of our past. It was primarily the northeast that wanted to dictate their beliefs on the rest of the country. That is when for the most part, we were an eastern nation (geographically speaking). And, no, it was not only about slavery. There were significant philosophical and even cultural differences that went all the way back to England (at that point we were still primarily an Anglo country).

Sherman would be tried as a war criminal today. There was no reason he should have destroyed civilian homes and take away their right to sustain themselves. You can have your warped view if you wish.

That phenomenon is still in play today (philosophical and cultural differences). The difference is the same groups have migrated mostly westward, and to a lesser extent southward, and picked up the black population in the process in addition to other non-Anglo cultures (with their own beliefs and folkways).

So Lincoln sent over 700,000 soldiers to their death for a belief that the states did not have the right to succeed. Now, I’m sure we both understand it was more complex than that, but that is what it boiled down to. That would be the equivalent of 9M to 10M dying today. Was it the right choice? That depends on your point of view.

So now we face another split, which is expected based on history (about every 80 years). It is not at all clear how this one will unfold since it is far from over. We lost about 300,000 in the last major conflict (WWII).

Hopefully, we’ve learned from our past (but I doubt it).


8 posted on 12/20/2020 8:26:04 AM PST by icclearly
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To: icclearly

Sherman would not be tried as a war criminal by any standard. “War is cruel’’, he said. “The crueler it is the sooner it’s over’’. No one tried any of the American generals of WW2 for bringing the fight to the German people and Germany.

I don’t have a ‘’warped view’’. You do.

The South undertook a violent(and illegal) secession in order to preserve an economic system based on the use of slave labor and lost.


9 posted on 12/20/2020 10:31:01 AM PST by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: icclearly
Sherman made the Georgia howl and ended the damned war. A war the South in particular the Fire Eaters wanted. If the South had won the war, it sure as hell wouldn't have ended slavery and don't give me that Lost case bullsh!t about Lincoln going to war to end slavery. He did intend to end it but his primary reason was to preserve the Union and he succeeded. The South formed the Confederacy. It started a war and lost. Get over it.
20 posted on 12/28/2020 10:27:44 AM PST by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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