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World’s Best Rifle? Russian AK-47 vs. U.S. M-16
nationalinterest.org ^ | Dec. 11, 2020 | Fritz W. Ermarth

Posted on 12/16/2020 10:12:01 AM PST by PROCON

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To: Jewbacca
The Tavor is a wild card and a very special case.

Can't agree the Tavor is the worlds best, but it would be my personal choice for real world urban self defense applications in our Antifa world. Nothing else comes close and there is no substitute.

61 posted on 12/16/2020 11:15:52 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: servantboy777

One of the guns that I prefer a little over my AK is my Beretta BM-59 chambered in 7.62×51mm NATO. It is basically an M1 Garand rechambered with a 20rd box magazine attached. To shoot lead bullets out of it without messing up the barrel you have to reload them a little light. A BM-59 weighs 10 pounds before you load up the magazine. An unloaded M-16 weighs about 6 pounds, and an AK-47 weighs about 8 pounds.


62 posted on 12/16/2020 11:16:52 AM PST by fireman15
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To: gundog

yup... i had my bolt reworked to accept a new spring retracted firing pin

wi the 16” barrel it’s about as handy as it can get


63 posted on 12/16/2020 11:22:24 AM PST by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed. )
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To: Blueflag

This. Guns are like golf clubs, each serves a certain purpose.


64 posted on 12/16/2020 11:26:43 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: M Kehoe

100 !?!
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I’ll be Bach!


65 posted on 12/16/2020 11:34:22 AM PST by Big Red Badger ("Bats Soup" to "Nuts" Biden,CHINAs' Beind it ALL!)
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To: Big Red Badger

LOL.

5.56mm


66 posted on 12/16/2020 11:40:18 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: gundog

Lemme guess: AK47 ammo is cheaper than M16 ammo.


67 posted on 12/16/2020 11:43:34 AM PST by Kevmo (WTF? My tagline disappeared.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“AK 74M for the win”

Ditto on that.


68 posted on 12/16/2020 11:45:04 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Yo-Yo

Apprecite the info....I stand corrected....and proud of our engineering.


69 posted on 12/16/2020 11:45:46 AM PST by V_TWIN (Where's Hunter???)
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To: fireman15

Sumthin to consider.


70 posted on 12/16/2020 11:47:05 AM PST by Kevmo (WTF? My tagline disappeared.)
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To: PROCON

Well to be fair in Vietnam the military sent our guys out with M16s and no cleaning kits. Told them the weapon didn’t need to be cleaned. Its totally does have to be maintained. Also at that time the military was using ammo with a different kind of powder than Stoner’s specs called for. There was some talk that they were even using WW11 powder.


71 posted on 12/16/2020 11:49:41 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: walkingdead

When I pull the trigger, I know it will go ‘bang’.

Tagline material


72 posted on 12/16/2020 11:49:46 AM PST by Kevmo (WTF? My tagline disappeared.)
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To: PROCON

The AK74 was an improvement over the M16. The longer more unstable bullet is a shredder extraordinaire.


73 posted on 12/16/2020 11:50:15 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: pa_dweller

You’re more likely to be hit from one rather than the other.


74 posted on 12/16/2020 11:51:41 AM PST by Kevmo (WTF? My tagline disappeared.)
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To: 762X51

A paperweight.


75 posted on 12/16/2020 11:52:57 AM PST by Kevmo (WTF? My tagline disappeared.)
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To: PROCON

Have several of both...

As the author pointed out, their designed for different environments. In the mud and glop... the AK is the way to go. For close quarter tactical AR.

Both are fine weapons


76 posted on 12/16/2020 11:56:37 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: PROCON
Months in the field in Vietnam and the M16 never let me down. Pulled the bolt and cleaned the bore/chamber every night. If we could lay our hands on an AK or captured SKS we would. More for confusing the enemy in a dense jungle fight as flanking them firing AKs sometimes led to hesitating to return fire on their part. M16s definitely in rice paddy would out shoot the AK any time for the distances and both would spray and pray in triple canopy just fine.

We all lusted over the company's snipers tricked out M14's though.


77 posted on 12/16/2020 12:01:08 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: rdcbn1

Nobody gives a fuq about penetration at the time of firing. They care about accuracy, deterrence, and remaining ammo.


78 posted on 12/16/2020 12:01:29 PM PST by Kevmo (WTF? My tagline disappeared.)
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To: Chode

Got a “paratrooper,” eh?


79 posted on 12/16/2020 12:03:30 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: servantboy777

That’s kinda the point of the ak47, to push the opposition out to 300 yards.


80 posted on 12/16/2020 12:06:02 PM PST by Kevmo (WTF? My tagline disappeared.)
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