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Proposal to put a check on Presidential election fraud.
a day late | Fightin Kentuckian

Posted on 12/02/2020 7:30:54 AM PST by fightin kentuckian

The idea is to strictly control the basic means of voting, the ballot.

These several simple steps/rules could possibly cut 99% of all voter fraud so the dimocrats would never go for it. It could be implemented by EO for Federal Elections. And there is enough leeway to allow states to conduct their elections according to the constitution.

1. Ballots for Presidential elections are printed at the mint with each ballot being numbered, printed on the same paper used for our currency, having anti-counterfeit measures printed in. Each ballot is a controlled item.

2. Blank ballots are shipped to each state. The state will print their candidates on the blank ballots. Number batches and where they are sent to, are recorded.

3. The total ballots sent to each state is no more than 70% of registered voters.

4. No ballots will be destroyed. Mismarked, damaged, spoiled ballots and all unused ballots will be returned to the fed.

5. Only official ballots are allowed to be used in Presidential elections.

6. All ballots are maintained for 20 years just like the Gun background check form.

The plan is very feasible. Possible is another reality. I think we can't afford to do something like this. This is about the only thing that would restore my trust in elections after this blatant debacle.

Have at it.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: ballots; election
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1 posted on 12/02/2020 7:30:54 AM PST by fightin kentuckian
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To: fightin kentuckian

Would have been great, if proposed in 2016. Now it’s too late. Democrats WANT voter fraud.


2 posted on 12/02/2020 7:31:59 AM PST by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." - 2005, my quote. I never knew how prescient I was.)
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“Would have been great, if proposed in 2016. Now it’s too late. Democrats WANT voter fraud.”

True, but I’ve often wondered why we didn’t do something like this before. It seems to me to be a very common sense procedure.


3 posted on 12/02/2020 7:35:39 AM PST by fightin kentuckian
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To: fightin kentuckian

Add mandatory 10 years in jail for any attempt at fraud.


4 posted on 12/02/2020 7:38:44 AM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. I will never be a peaceful sla America.)
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To: fightin kentuckian
3. The total ballots sent to each state is no more than 70% of registered voters.

Won't fly. Some precincts have 90+% participation rate, but each precinct's ballots are unique due to down-ballot races.

5 posted on 12/02/2020 7:40:24 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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“Won’t fly. Some precincts have 90+% participation rate, but each precinct’s ballots are unique due to down-ballot races.”

It’s highly unusual for any precinct to have a 90% participation rate, but in that case, extra ballots can be requested.

Secondly, the states print according to their needs on blank ballots allowing for each precinct to be unique.


6 posted on 12/02/2020 7:45:46 AM PST by fightin kentuckian
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To: fightin kentuckian
Anyone suspected of voter fraud jailed immediately and kept there until cleared or convicted.

Those convicted hanged within twenty four hours.

Those caught in the act summarily executed on the spot.

Aiders, abettors and after the fact accomplices to serve not less than 10 years hard labor, and have all rights stripped, then exiled to other countries, preferably ones with dictators and totalitarians.

The ten years can be modified for help in convicting others.

7 posted on 12/02/2020 7:47:57 AM PST by going hot
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To: fightin kentuckian
I support a major effort to eliminate this chronic voter fraud problem. But, I feel Republicans won't fight fraud and Democrats depend on it.

Another proposal I liked was the standardized, national mandated voter ID card. Using your social security number. Easier to detect and prosecute voter fraud when the same SS number shows up voting in FL, GA, SC, and 42 times in San Diego.

Should also start prosecuting poll workers and other election officials for violating State or Federal election laws while carrying out their duties.

I know it has legal issues with State Rights in determining the "time and methods" of voting. But, it's time to resolve this in not already too late.

8 posted on 12/02/2020 7:49:56 AM PST by sjmjax
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To: fightin kentuckian
Also, forgot to add:

Only paper ballots, same day voting, count until finished, with voter ID required.

For multiple voting, see above.

9 posted on 12/02/2020 7:50:21 AM PST by going hot
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To: fightin kentuckian
The real focus should be on how to control mail-in ballots. Maybe the only way is to abandon the notion of voter secrecy for mail-in ballots, and instead have encrypted markings on the outer secrecy envelope and the paper ballot so that the two can be re-married back up after tabulation so that questioned ballots can be removed from the count.

Encrypted markings means that the ballots be identified to a specific voter only under a court order.

Also, a way to make the manufacture of mail-in ballots less convenient, by perhaps requiring that the voter must move a security sticker from the outer envelope and stick it to the ballot, much like a Publisher's Clearinghouse Sweepstakes entry.

Having to peel and stick a sticker would slow down the fake ballot generators, and no sticker means no vote.

10 posted on 12/02/2020 7:52:34 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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fightin kentuckian :" Presidential elections are printed at the mint with each ballot being numbered, printed on the same paper used for our currency,
having anti-counterfeit measures printed in. "

I doubt that the Secret Service, who investigates counterfeit currency, would allow ' on the same paper used for our currency',
since one of the controls and safe-guards against counterfeit money is it's unique characteristics and embedded red thread.
Since even the mint paper can be bleached, it would open a flood gate of counterfeit currency.

11 posted on 12/02/2020 7:53:56 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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3. The total ballots sent to each state is no more than 70% of registered voters.

What if turnout is over 70% and you run out of ballots?

12 posted on 12/02/2020 7:54:57 AM PST by Lower Deck
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To: fightin kentuckian

There are no Presidential elections in the Constitution, and, tha appointment of Electors by State Legislatures is not a Federal election.


13 posted on 12/02/2020 7:55:26 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: fightin kentuckian

Who cares about yet even more rules when the original rules are not being followed??

This election fraud is about CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, CRIMES, CRIMINALS, not rules that honest people couldn’t follow.


14 posted on 12/02/2020 7:56:20 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: fightin kentuckian

Distributed Ledger Technology (basis for blockchain) can and in my opinion, should be applied to three areas.

1) The voter rolls
2) Ballot and mailer envelop
3) The vote counting process


15 posted on 12/02/2020 8:00:41 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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To: Pajamajan

Production of ballots without state authorization should be covered by the same laws a forgery of currency.


16 posted on 12/02/2020 8:01:55 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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To: sjmjax
We also need responsible Secretaries of State who get the dead off the voting rolls. Dems are notorious for getting the dead to roll over in their graves and vote.

And we need better checks on multi-state registration.

17 posted on 12/02/2020 8:08:15 AM PST by MHT
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To: fightin kentuckian

It is a lot simpler than that.

First, purge all voter rolls.
All voters must re-register.
Registration must be to standards of Real ID.
Anyone found to be registering fraudulent voters should be severely punished (as in ‘ruin your life and your family’s lives’ severe).

For elections, no mail-in-ballots.
All absentee ballots should strictly controlled.
Voters must show up at their appointed polling place and present a Real ID compliant ID before they can vote.

Easy. Purge the rolls, and all voters must present a difficult-to-forge ID in order to register, and to vote.

The real problem, though, is that the Federal Government has become so powerful that it is a life-and-death issue as to who controls it. My starry-eyed dream is a Federal Government that is weak enough and distant enough that no one cares...


18 posted on 12/02/2020 8:10:34 AM PST by Little Ray (The Left and Right no longer have anything in common. A House divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: fightin kentuckian

Democrats have fought voter ID, the simplest of fraud prevention methods, there is no way they would agree to your proposal.

Besides, it’s too late now, they have perfected the art of the steal.


19 posted on 12/02/2020 8:17:11 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: fightin kentuckian

Who selects the 70% of registered voters that get a ballot?


20 posted on 12/02/2020 8:17:45 AM PST by Meatspace
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