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Johns Hopkins University Newsletter Ran Study Saying COVID-19 'Relatively No Effect on Deaths' in U.S., Then Deleted It After Publication
Red State ^ | 11/27/2020 | Nick Arama

Posted on 11/27/2020 9:01:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/27/2020 9:01:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Hmmm...interesting.


2 posted on 11/27/2020 9:04:28 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: SeekAndFind

COVID 19 is a cure for most disease.


3 posted on 11/27/2020 9:04:28 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: SeekAndFind

Science is dead.


4 posted on 11/27/2020 9:04:33 PM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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science is indeed so hopelessly politicized as to no longer exist in any objective or practically useful way.

but we knew that from global-climate-warming-change.


5 posted on 11/27/2020 9:09:31 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the student newspaper’s analysis that was pulled down and not the actual John’s Hopkins report. The actual John’s Hopkins study remains as issued.

The JHN article was pulled down on Thursday without explanation. The student newspaper on Friday wrote on Twitter that the article was “being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies” about the impact of the pandemic, and that they “regret that this article may have contributed to the spread of misinformation about COVID-19.”

Briand’s webinar, in which she explained her findings in detail with graphs, is still available on Johns Hopkins University’s YouTube channel.
Briand stands by her analysis. You should have figured out that the vast majority of the article you posted is not in “quotes” of Briand and was rather the analysis of some JH student with an agenda.


6 posted on 11/27/2020 9:09:55 PM PST by Chumdad
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https://www.headlineoftheday.com/2020/11/27/the-facts-about-excess-deaths-due-to-coronavirus/


7 posted on 11/27/2020 9:10:44 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
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To: JohnBrowdie

CAGW damaged science to the point where the nonsense that has been going on with Covid could happen.

See also my comment in this Ivermectin thread, where it is obvious that the doctors/scientists who performed this meta-study are running anonymous because of how screwed up the world and the science establishment is.

Ivermectin is effective for COVID-19: meta analysis of 19 studies
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3910002/posts


8 posted on 11/27/2020 9:12:17 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

Our son gave us a heads-up about this development in the last 3 hours.
I just thought to myself, “Well G## D###. The fraud is proven -Again.”


9 posted on 11/27/2020 9:12:33 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19


10 posted on 11/27/2020 9:21:01 PM PST by Doofer ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s because the author conflated the quantity of deaths with the age-distribution of deaths. They went looking for a spike in the deaths of the elderly - likely due to having read the “it only kills old and sick people” trope too many times without thinking about the fact that most everything only kills old and sick people - and didn’t find one. They apparently assumed that meant that CCP-19 hadn’t killed anybody, rather than understanding that there would be no change in the distribution because the CCP-19 deaths are distributed by age the same way almost everything else is.

The things to look for are not who died, but how they died, and how that affects overall life expectancy. Fewer people will die from some things and more people will die from other things. The questions become whether there was a greater or smaller net loss of life, and how much has life expectancy decreased as a result.


11 posted on 11/27/2020 9:35:12 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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The student newspaper on Friday wrote on Twitter that the article was "being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies" about [...]

In the 15th century, that was known as "heresy."

Regards,

12 posted on 11/27/2020 9:43:29 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Only 6% of the 200,000+ Covid19-counted deaths had NO co-morbidities documented on the death certificate, but individual medical record review would be necessary before I would trust any of these numbers. Going with the 6%, that amounts to 12-15,000 deaths out of nearly 3 million deaths in America each year. The other 94% had at least 2-3 serious health problems, respiratory, cardiovascular, diabetes, cancer and on it goes. No diagnostic proof was or is required to presume Covid19 as “present” or causal at time of death.

We have known that 6% estimate for several weeks as reported by myself and others here on FR. CDC clearly states that fact in its weekly mortality report. That 6% could have been killed on the ventilator or died in the nursing home after being denied “non-essential” medical care.

The higher than expected deaths reported in April and May was a PLANNED culling of old and frail people in key “hot spots” to scare the sheeeet out of everyone. It was designed for you to voluntarily give up everything out of fear — your freedom, your common sense, your way of life. OPERATION WARP SPEED started with Trump and continues no matter who is in the WH...keep cooperating with these Tyrants at your own peril. Divide and Conquer brings the whole House down. No proof necessary.


13 posted on 11/27/2020 9:44:50 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


14 posted on 11/27/2020 9:47:02 PM PST by Mears (...)
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This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be have been falsely recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.

No wonder they took this article down - it is in dire need of copy-editing!

Regards,

15 posted on 11/27/2020 9:49:54 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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The questions become whether there was a greater or smaller net loss of life, and how much has life expectancy decreased as a result.

My understanding is that the article speaks exactly to this issue. My understanding is that the article points out that the overall death rate (among the elderly) has not significantly increased - and that, apparently, the rise in COVID-19 deaths is completely offset by the drop in deaths due to all other causes (heart disease, etc.) - at least among the elderly.

Am I missing something here? If so, please feel free to enlighten me!

This article seems to me to be "spot on."

Regards,

16 posted on 11/27/2020 9:55:55 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no news about the normal, seasonal flu this year. Does Covid-19 cure the flu? Strange times indeed...


17 posted on 11/27/2020 9:56:11 PM PST by bluejean (Living one day at a time in the national psych ward.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was ahead of the curve on this issue and have already posted a few times that total deaths in US will not increase much at all in 2020. It is not complicated.
Majority dying from covid had serious co-morbidities already meaning they were in very poor health and would soon have died anyways.


18 posted on 11/27/2020 9:59:32 PM PST by entropy12 (Stalin would have loved USA election system as it exists now! )
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To: bluejean

Washing hands and wearing masks has reduced flu cases. And the normal candidates for flu are catching covid first.


19 posted on 11/27/2020 10:01:55 PM PST by entropy12 (Stalin would have loved USA election system as it exists now! )
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3909889/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3910042/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3910154/posts


20 posted on 11/27/2020 10:06:14 PM PST by Drago
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