The End of the Road for Uber and Lyft in California Unless Prop 22 Passes

Red State ^ | 10/23/2020 | Jennifer Oliver O'Connell

[Parley Baer]

The wife and I voted for Prop 22. The only proposition we voted for. All the others we voted NO on.

[NohSpinZone]

The death rattle of the private-sector unions can still hurt in the right places - commie California is one of those places.

[Leaning Right]

As the article noted, Uber and Lyft provide a great public service. Instead of drinking and driving, many young people will drink, then call Uber or Lyft.

So naturally CA’s liberal elite tries to interfere with that. The Nanny State always thinks it knows better. And it is always wrong.

[dynachrome]

“rideshare and delivery drivers who wish to remain independent”

Comrades! Follow the directives of your maximum leader, Newsome! Independence from the collective is bad! No to critical thinking! We will think for you! Love Big Brother!
Now, go back to hating orangeman.

[C19fan]

No sympathy for these Gig companies. They got into bed with Democrats and the Left and now they caught a STD.

[C19fan]

Prop 22 made it on the November ballot, and have spent over $190 million in education and advertising

Good gawd...it was not that long ago $190 MM was the amount a POTUS campaign would spend.

[P-Marlowe]

The crazy thing is, libs use it the most. A lot of young libs never learned to drive, they don’t own cars and use Uber for everything. Then they vote for the idiots who drafted this law.

[GOP Poet]

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[Regulator]

“No sympathy for these Gig companies”

That’s my attitude.

Uber sent out a demandogram with their latest app update to swear fealty to BLM or else no service, and please delete the app.

I did so within seconds, and plan on using Yellow Cab for the very infrequent times that I need a ride.

They wanna break the Unions for cabbies? Talk to their buddy Gruesome Newsom.

[Strident]

I thought this affected every type of contract work not protected under interstate commerce oversight (that’s commercial trucking)

IT specialists, caterers, etc.

all I ever see is stories about Lyft and Uber.

Again, besides killing the app-based economy, this will kill the gig-based economy.

Collateral damage.

[Reno89519]

Very little sympathy for Uber and Lyft. As employees or contractors or whatever they wanna call it, they should be paying appropriate commercial insurance, etc.

[glennaro]

I think it’s going to win big as there are many, many “independent contractors” in California that will benefit when Prop 22 passes for Lyft and Uber.

[KarlInOhio]

The original bad law affected everyone. Prop 22 only reverses it for drivers.

If I were a Californian, I wouldn't know whether to vote for Prop 22 to chip away at the stupid law, or vote against it to make the whole law awful when enforced on everyone rather than relieving a couple pressure points.

[blueplum]

cab companies last I looked had to carry 1Million dollars in liability ins per cab. Dispatch logs can be used to verify income, tips excepted. Drivers are routinely randomly drug tested and FBI-background checked processed by the local PD. Their meters and vehicles are inspected once a year for accuracy/safety. How does that compare to uber/lyft?

I’ve also seen the complaint that the uber/lyft drivers want paid sick leave, vacation and medical. Although most work less than 20 hours a week and work for more than one vendor. I don’t see how that works out logistically for the companies. If a driver works 6 hours a week, how much sick leave or vacation time would they actually accrue, compared to say, office workers? Who pays the medical? If companies are supposed to provide that, and the drivers drive for 2 or 3 companies, how is that shared out?

I see the emotional arguments but not much red meat. So for me, I haven’t decided yes or no yet.

[Persevero]

There are no cab unions in California.

Just a bunch of independent contractor cabbies keeping tons of regulations that uber and lyft ignore.

[Intar]

I'm voting no for these reasons:

• The entire law needs to be repealed as it is a power grab for California against the labor market and is designed to empower labor unions.
• It destroys independent musicians, artists, and contractors and forces them to give the rights to their works to large corporations.
• Communism uses Corporatism as a means of controlling commerce via government owned corporate monopolies. This law is a big step in that direction.
• Uber and Lift are both guilty of deceptive trade practices and violation of consumer privacy. They also encourage Marxist thought via their stance on social justice issues and use their apps as a way to push those platforms.
• Uber and Lift do not disclose the level of liability to their drivers and uses this ignorance as a means to push their service. Once a driver gets into an accident and realizes their insurance does not cover it, they have no recourse. Uber and Lift both have a due diligence to disclose the liability risks drivers assume when signing up to provide service.
• Uber (especially) and Lift are supporters of the Democrat party and donate money to their causes; let them reap the rewards (/s) of this relationship.

[eyeamok]

We voted NO because Uber and Lyft are Both 99% Proud Democrats, the drivers are 90% proud democrats, they VOTED for this, they can Suck it Up!!

[dfwgator]

California Uber Alles!

[Persevero]

Cab companies Are restricted to 2,000 cabs in San Francisco. Cab companies must provide workman’s comp. Cab drivers can negotiate lower fares. Cabs are subjected to surprise third party inspections. Cabs don’t have to drive an assigned route. Cabbies who get complaints get a hearing not a summary license yank.

Cabbies have a much harder time pretending their illegal brother Mohammed is them driving. Or their sex offender friend or violent felon brother or unlicensed cousin. This is because of the required very clear signage and markings on cabs, the requirement that we check in for waybills when we drive in person, so if I hand off my cab to Abdul the scores of cabbies who know cab #300 can easily see hey that is not Persevero driving in there. Police check you waybills at traffic stops and of course dispatchers know if that’s not you.

Cabs are required to pick up disabled and animals. Cabs must have a certain number of wheelchair accessible vehicles. Cabs in sf must possess a $250,000 medallion.

I am an independent contractor and support independent contracting. But this is about way more than that.