Posted on 09/24/2020 8:22:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Ok, so I am assuming that the 200K is a bogus number. The difference of “with Covid” which I believe the 200K represents and “from Covid” which I believe is a much smaller number.
Given this report, is there a way to estimate the “from Covid”?
They will either pull it down or call it a lie.
Facebook fact checkers are 96% former CNN employees.
Although I agree that most have a comorbidity, it says 2-3. If the average is 2-3 then for each with only one (hypertension) you have someone with at least 3, maybe 4. IOW it hits the very unhealthy much harder than the slightly unhealthy.
Excess Deaths are the one item of information we have that can resist agenda. Are more people dying this year than other years — that is the decisive question.
Your point about pulling deaths forward by X months has been asked before. It faces high challenge to play out as compelling — mostly because as old people die, new people become old. The virus prime target total is replenished.
We’re coming up on the time of the year when more people die in normal years, but the excess deaths curves are not flattening . . . at least not yet. Certainly not in Texas and the Southeast.
Of significant issue is the reality that Excess Death totals exceed the official Covid death totals. It’s popular and fun to talk about the heart attack who had a positive test and died and was called Covid. But the reality is far, far more old people get sick, try to tough it out at home, and are killed — and never tested. The official Covid counts are likely undercounts, not overcounts.
Yes, I understand your point. The problem is other stuff follows hypertension rather quickly in older people. Renal impairment is pretty quick. The patient won’t really feel it but the kidney blood work will show it.
It’s pretty normal for old people to have co-morbidities.
An average of 2.6 comorbidities meaning more than half had three.
Obesity + Diabetes + Heart/circulatory problems
Have you seen people these days?
Bunch of Nadlers.
Thanks for the education. I will have to review this later tonight.
Sure thing. The CDC’s weekly stats for excess deaths are here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
Keep in mind that about half of the reporting jurisdictions (mostly state and local health departments) take more than 10 days to report stats to the CDC, so the numbers for recent weeks are low and get filled in later as the data arrives.
Also, the numbers being what they are doesn’t change anything about the questions around responses. Such as:
Why did Governor Cuomo and others (PA, CA, etc.) force nursing homes to accept known-infected persons? How many deaths resulted from these policies?
Why did Governor Newsom and others award BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to fake companies that were supposed to supply protective gear like masks, but apparently never did?
Why did the CDC botch the initial batch of test kits, delaying testing in the US at a critical time early in the pandemic, especially when the WHO already had a working test kit developed and easily deployed?
Why, when every other business was shuttered, were Costco and others allow to pack 1,000+ people into the stores, spiking transmission rates during the supposed “lockdowns”?
Why was bad guidance given to the American public early in the pandemic telling everyone not to wear face masks and why did it take so long to acknowledge what the rest of the world already knew?
Why were states so short on PPE for hospital staff? Where were the strategic stockpiles of these critical items?
Why do COVID related restrictions in multiple states CONTINUE to ignore all the research and recommendations from the CDC and the WHO stating that outdoor activities (like going to the beach) are low risk for transmission and promote good physical and mental health?
Why hasn’t any state put together any sort of comprehensive approach to help protect the most vulnerable people (the elderly, those with high risk conditions, etc.) from transmission? Many have no support system to handle things like grocery shopping or other critical personal tasks and have to go out into public and into crowds.
There are hundreds of questions that really need to be asked about the RESPONSES, and some of those answers (if given honestly) should probably elicit criminal charges.
The remarkable thing about the pandemic is how few young people have died from it. It was very different during the Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918-1920.
9200 out of 200,000 would be about 4.6 %.
Why cannot we open up all the businesses?
I am sorry for your loss-——
I just realized something in your post-
Politicians are putting an additional demand on first res[ponders when THOSE people have to be the substitute family in a dying person’s last hours.
That is a heavy toll, IMO
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