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To: mlo

IF her parents were NOT US citizens at the time of her birth ... even on US soil, she is NOT and will never be a ‘natural’ born US citizen... What part of ‘natural’ is so hard for some to comprehend?


9 posted on 09/20/2020 1:16:00 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Just mythoughts
"IF her parents were NOT US citizens at the time of her birth ... even on US soil, she is NOT and will never be a ‘natural’ born US citizen... What part of ‘natural’ is so hard for some to comprehend?"

Nothing about the word "natural" demands something about the citizenship status of one's parents.

That is not what the phrase means. If she was born in the US then her parents have nothing to do with it.

15 posted on 09/20/2020 1:20:26 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Just mythoughts

I love how democrats are using the blood and soil argument to justify kamala


25 posted on 09/20/2020 1:28:39 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Just mythoughts

You are incorrect.

There is no requirement or definition for a natural born citizen in the Constitution. No rule requiring location of birth, no rule requiring parentage. In Fact, the Constitution SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATES that it is Congress that shall define ALL rules regarding naturalization. That includes the rules for those who are citizens at birth and do not need to be naturalized, i.e. natural born citizens.

And in response to that Constitutional requirement, The First Congress took up and passed laws regarding citizenship and even mentions those that are natural born. From those very first acts of Congress, and subsequently modified many times, the rules for who needs to be naturalized and who does not, have been passed into law by Congress. Under the laws and SCOTUS interpretation of the Constitution and Amendments, the current precedent is to award citizenship to anyone born on US soil or to at least one US citizen parent even while abroad, they are a natural born citizen from the moment of their birth because they do not require naturalization.

Some may not agree with this precedent and may wish to change the rules going forward. This would require only a simple passage of law in Congress and signed off by the President per normal procedure. However, trying to go back in time and creating an ex-post facto ruling that benefits a particular world view is in my opinion a very dangerous precedent. It also seems to be a fruitless effort without the aforementioned changes to law.


39 posted on 09/20/2020 1:47:36 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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To: Just mythoughts

because they willfully do not want to understand


41 posted on 09/20/2020 1:57:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Just mythoughts

People have a really hard time understanding Natural Born versus Native born.

When I compare it to having AKC registered pups versus mutts, they sometimes understand.

Kamala avoids any conversation about her status, because SHE KNOWS she is NOT eligible to be either President or Vice President-—or to hold any position that can succeed President.


55 posted on 09/20/2020 2:22:46 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Just mythoughts

“What part of ‘natural’ is so hard for some to comprehend?”

Remember when the Rapist in Chief was being deposed concerning the Lewinsky affair?
How many lawyers took how many days to determine what the definition of “is” is?

Comprehension isn’t the problem.
Arriving at the desired definition is the problem.


78 posted on 09/20/2020 3:31:21 PM PDT by oldvirginian (Take your mask and shove it! I am a proud WhuFlu Heretic and Trump Deplorable.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Explain the legal definition of “natural born citizen”.
Please include a legal decision confirming the definition.


84 posted on 09/20/2020 3:57:10 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Just mythoughts
What part of ‘natural’ is so hard for some to comprehend?

Maybe you should ask former President Baraq Hussein Obama.

97 posted on 09/20/2020 5:26:43 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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