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To: amorphous

As far as accidents... Cherokees will go into a “mush mode” if you try to get them off in challenging conditions before they reach flying speed. They will mush along in ground effect in a nose high attitude without gaining speed until you hit something solid, but this is often a walk away from your broken airplane situation.

172s on the other hand will try to obey your command and claw away from the ground barely above stall and gain altitude until the pilot tries to get just a little more altitude before the plane is ready and then the plane will nose straight in which is not a survivable situation.

We have had both types of “accidents” on the feild where we live. The Cherokee’s wings were torn off when it mushed into the trees and everyone in the overloaded plane walked away. The pilots of the two most recent departure stall “accidents” nosed straight into the ground and did not survive. The Cherokee pilot was a newbie, the departure stall pilots were both flying homebuilts were high time and suffered engine power loss on departure.


37 posted on 09/08/2020 10:00:37 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

I have a couple of friends who survived a “mush crash” in a 140. One told me he’ll always remember seeing the nose wheel go flying by the windscreen.


43 posted on 09/08/2020 10:17:44 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: fireman15

As a CE and FE in the army ng, I found your post very full of information. Very easy to understand... It was a good read! I’m thinking about getting back into aviation. Thanks.


64 posted on 09/08/2020 7:33:03 PM PDT by Pocketdoor (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uufeEhq25rc)
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