[sinsofsolarempirefan]

I support the right of law abiding sane citizens to own a gun but since you need a licence to drive a car because it is a dangerous machine when operated by someone who is incompetent or reckless I don’t see why a gun should be anh different. I dont want incompetent idiots buying guns without proving that they know how to handle them safely and dont have violent criminal records or are insane.

In order to stop the state abusing the licensing system the burden of proof should rest with them on why they refused a permit, rather than simply that they can be refused on an arbitrary whim, in much the same way that they cant just send you to prison without trial. If the state cannot give a good reason to refuse the permit, a court can overrule them.

[jazminerose]

And, what would be your yardstick for this?

’proving that they know how to handle them safely. . .’

What standard of *proof* should be required? Who should be in charge of these thousands of evaluations? What kind of tests will be employed? How will they be normed?

You used liberal ”logic” here. Just toss out some filler that sounds nice. Don’t bother to consider content.

[justme4now]

Sad that your way of thinking is why we have all of these unconstitutional gun laws today!

READ the Constitution!

Do you see anywhere in the Bill of Rights that says: "The People have a Right to drive"?
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Our Rights come from God .. Not government!

As far as your "incompetent idiots" scenario, we already have laws for that.

It's called ... prosecuting the "incompetent idiots" for a crime When they commit one!

As I have asked before .. How are you going to stop a possible, tyrannical government takeover when that same government is "permitting" which forms of protection you can have!?

Read some history on government's that rule with an iron fist and even Murder millions of their own people.

Take notice of one of the first actions they take against the people!

I gave a condensed summary of our 2nd amendment on the following page.
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THE 2ND AND THE CONSTITUTION

THE 2ND AMENDMENT

If you don't wish to go to the page I'll leave you with this:

Today, when a concerted effort is made to obliterate this point, it cannot be repeated too often that the Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals- that it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government- that it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen’s protection against the government.
(Ayn Rand)

[Lurkinanloomin]

The 2nd Amendment does not say “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed if they pass the goverment test”.