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To: SpeedyInTexas

The Southern states should have been allowed to secede in 1860. Slavery would’ve ended peacefully, as it did everywhere else in the West, without horrible bloodshed.

If the South had seceded, the new states which came later would’ve undoubtedly split into many self-governing confederacies as well.

The American Empire would’ve never waged World War One, which begat World War Two, the Third Reich, communism etc.

Can anyone doubt that we’d be far better off today ?


9 posted on 07/30/2020 9:43:44 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: BrexitBen

“Slavery would’ve ended peacefully, as it did everywhere else in the West, without horrible bloodshed.”

This is my long standing view. I remember debating a history teacher in high school. He thought Lincoln was the greatest. I said “he started a civil war”...


12 posted on 07/30/2020 9:56:12 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (Localization, not Globalization)
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To: BrexitBen

Not sure what you’re trying to say. You’re saying a so-called American Empire started World War I and World War II? And because of America that’s why we had the Third Reich and communism???


14 posted on 07/30/2020 10:01:29 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: BrexitBen
Can anyone doubt that we’d be far better off today ?

The Balkanization of America would have ended up the same way it ended up in Europe. It is likely that we would not have been in WWI or WWII, but it would have been because we would have been in domestic wars, as various leaders/tyrants would attempt to consolidate the countries into a, well, United States. IOW we would have had our own Napoleons, Bismarcks, Kaisers, and Hitlers.

Perhaps we would have been better off allowing the CSA to secede, but for our land to be more than 2 or maybe 3 nations would have been a recipe for long-term disaster.

19 posted on 07/30/2020 10:43:21 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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