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WE WERE RIGHT – CDC Now Estimates 22 Million Americans Infected with the China Coronavirus Making US Mortality Rate 0.6% – Confirming Our Estimates from March
Gateway Pundit ^ | 06/26/2020 | Joe Hoft

Posted on 06/26/2020 9:08:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Wpin

Well, aren’t you quite the petulant little child. Calling people dipshits and speaking with an air of authority and nothing to back It up — in my line of work we call you often wrong and never in doubt, To turn to your idiotic arguments, I will take them in order as you probably lack the wherewithal to understand a multifaceted discussion on issues. I will try to educate you exactly once, but it is clear that you are an arrogant narcissist with little ability to conceive of the truth.

1. “You are not smart enough to understand...”

I will make sure to alert the two top tier universities where I earned my Doctor of Medicine and my Masters in economics of your opinion, however with graduating with honors from all programs and being recognized in the top of all my classes, I am somehow doubtful that they will rescinding my degrees based on your little temper tantrum. Of course, my postdoctoral work in anesthesiology and critical care at the top residency and fellowship program in the nation also will not be taken away, nor will any of my three board certifications. ... What are your credentials to speak on medicine (I can already tell you have none based on your crude handling of medical terms), but I am so interested to hear your bona fides.

2. “Not wearing masks, not social distancing etc are the root of rapid growth”

Again, a blindingly stupid statement from someone who apparently is incapable of reading medical literature. In area where social distancing was strict and in areas where social distancing was lax, there are identical spreads of disease. Of course, what you are in your mentally small mind incapable of realizing is that of the tests currently, even where there is an increase in the (+) percentage, hospital admission and deaths are either steady or decreasing. Currently there are minimal death, and according to two studies (Italian, and from NE United States) even those infected are presenting with less severe symptoms and the utilization of ventilators continue to decline. Birx et al present data just today that the mnumber of deaths related to pneumonia are identical at this time year over year to the last 60 days. That is an exact quote and no distortion. However Fauci has made some whopping errors, but you are the one interpreting (I suppose it is because you are so much smarter than the rest of us when all you spew are talking points)

3. “ruin lungs, hearts, kidneys”

There is no evidence of long terms sequelae (that means results as I am unconvinced that you are anything than a mouth breathing, drooling idiot) that are any different than other victims that suffer from Multiorgan System Failure that is related to any infection or other causes (I would say etiology, however you as an uneducated jackass would not understand such erudite language). So go ahead promote fear all you want, but you are incorrect. Oh, my evidence is the over 150 people I have successfully treated with critical illness related to CoVID (You see we call it SARS -CoVID - 2) because SARS describes the critical illness component. Just so you know...

4. Terrible Pandemic...
The evidence clearly demonstrate that the death rate is roughly equal to that of seasonal flu, and it is acting as every other pandemic in the history of medicine. H1N1 was actually more scary because the primary mortally were middle age people with mild comorbidities. But you wont understand that. Additionally, the CDC testimony to congress states that we are missing number of cases by a factor of at least 10x (meaning that there are probably well over 20M cases). You see the testing is not showing disease that is new, it is merely giving us a better picture of that which is not there. So as we test asymptomatic people, and get positives — so what? This is the first so called pandemic where we are literally obnoxiously testing everyone repeatedly — you tend to find what you look for, however as it now skews to younger people, this is exactly how out species is designed to put up with viral diseases — the young get it who are able to handle it with ease, and grows group immunity for the vulnerable. We tell the vulnerable to take care to not come in to contact. Universal social distancing is a stupid as your concept of medicine and epidemiology.

Trust me, what is clear to me is that you are nothing more than a fear peddling, moronic idiot who is incapable of a single original thought or to understand data and draw decent conclusions. All you are interested in is the tyranny of imposing your fears on everyone despite evidence that is strongly to the contrary, and when you are unable to come up with a cogent argument, you go on the attack.

You, sir or ma’am, are the worst of the worst. I invite you to go hide under your bed with Kozak, ExDemMom, DannyTN, Hockey Stick McGee and every other fearper who simply require a diaper change every time they post. Your opinions are as idiotic as they are directed. Your petulance is nothing more than the sad cry of someone looking to be relevant and a petty dictator because you are afraid of freedom for others. You are nothing more than a bad punchline to a bad joke

Godspeed and Good luck,
And by good luck I mean F*uck Off a**hat


41 posted on 06/26/2020 5:19:02 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: SeekAndFind

.6% is 6 times higher than .1%. You just proved that Covid is extremely dangerous. Also, the .1% death rate for seasonal flu is for SYMPTOMATIC CASES. The death rate taking into account those infected with seasonal flu but without symptoms is about .025%. Covid is therefore 24 times deadlier. But I have told you this many times before. Also, the death rate is going down because of Remdesivir, Hydrochloriquine, Dexamethasone, and other improvement is clinical treatment.
The quoted death rate of .1% for seasonal flu is the number of deaths over the number of SYMPTOMATIC flu cases. Those without symptoms are not part of the denominator in that calculation (see CDC link below). It is estimated (see nhs.uk link below) that 75% of regular flu cases show no symptoms. This brings the infection fatality rate for regular flu from .1% to .025% if you count infected people instead of just symptomatic people. Covid19 is therefore 24 times deadlier than the flu, you can distort the numbers however you want, you can believe whatever you want, but no one can make a plausible argument that Covid19 isn’t at least 10 times deadlier than the seasonal flu, no matter how hard they try.
https://www.nhs.uk/news/medical-practice/three-quarters-of-people-with-flu-have-no-symptoms/
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html


42 posted on 06/27/2020 5:47:13 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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RE:, you can distort the numbers however you want, you can believe whatever you want, but no one can make a plausible argument that Covid19 isn’t at least 10 times deadlier than the seasonal flu, no matter how hard they try.

I don’t know why you keep using the pronoun YOU as if I was the one insisting that Covid-19 were like the seasonal flu. If you even bothered to check the posts that I made on this thread, you would know that I agree with you that it is several times deadlier than the flu. And oh, how you would drone on and on and on without even bothering to answer my previous responses to you.

The question we should all be asking is this — given what Covid-19 is, is it worth shutting down the entire economy and risking the lives of the many others who have lost their livelihood, are not treated because of other non-Covid diseases, in despair, etc.?

*THAT* is the question we have to answer. Given that we had similar deadly viruses that afflicted the population in the past ( see for instance the Hong Kong Flu of 1968 to 1970 ), I think the risk of shutting down the entire economy is MUCH GREATER than taking ordinary precautions (e.g., protecting the most vulnerable to the virus) and living life normally.


43 posted on 06/27/2020 7:28:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it wil)
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To: gas_dr

You can post all your delusions you want dipshit, won’t make a bit of difference with the pandemic...

Reality can be such a bother for dipshits...


44 posted on 06/27/2020 9:19:42 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

So dipshit. What is your background thst gives you any credibility?


45 posted on 06/27/2020 9:24:46 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

Well, I am not a moron dipshit...learn to learn from those smarter than you.


46 posted on 06/27/2020 9:15:53 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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When I find that you are smarter I will learn. However you habenoddeeed no evidence, no credential, nothing. You are a self absorbed idiot who thinks name calling some how lends credibility

Tell us your credentials oh mighty one. Oe you can let the adults handle the situation. It’s ok. You got nothing. You have an opinion and sadly everyone has one. Most of them incorrect. I have data.

You are a baby screaming for attention and willing to throw poop on the wall so someone has to acknowledge you. Go on over to DU. You would fit right in, troll.


47 posted on 06/28/2020 3:30:03 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

You bore me dipshit. Go crawl back under your rock...lol


48 posted on 06/28/2020 5:46:09 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

Is that all you got. Your hollow posts only match the emptiness of your head. I would say you are a four year old but that would be an insult to four year olds everywhere

Your credentials, jackass? We are waiting. You can’t answer becusse you are defeated. Try answering the arguments presented. If all you got is name calling and sticking your fingers in your ears go get your diaper changed. You are neither serious nor an adult. Your time for being considered anything but a whiny little wuss is about up

But go tell yourself how erudite and amazing you are. There is only one seat in that arena

When you actually have something on point then feel free to talk

God speed and Good luck
And by good luck I mean
F*uck off


49 posted on 06/28/2020 5:52:06 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: brookwood

Really? You don’t know much about data analysis. CoVId is about as deadly if not less deadly than the seasonal flu

But peddle your inaccurate assessments. It’s a good look


50 posted on 06/28/2020 5:53:52 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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