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To: Ann Archy

Bad parenting. Probably. But bad teachers? Ann, what you saw in that video happens to teachers every day. I myself was once hit so hard that it knocked me over, and I had to go to the hospital.

No teacher likes that. And no teacher teaches it as acceptable behavior.

So why does it happen, in schools anyway? Like with society in general, in schools bad behavior is excused away. Principals get bonuses - and promotions - by limiting suspensions. So a kid who would have been thrown out of school in the old days is now sent right back to class, with a note telling the teacher to call home.

And woe to the teacher who calls the police to report a violent incident. We were told that calling the police was a firing offense. And that was because you weren’t going through the proper channels. Of course, when you go through the proper channels everything was hushed up.

Yes, today’s curriculum is weak. Things like manners and citizenship aren’t taught anymore. But teachers no longer have any input on what’s being taught. That all comes from central administration.


17 posted on 06/17/2020 9:19:22 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right

“But teachers no longer have any input on what’s being taught. That all comes from central administration.”

And yet, those same teachers overwhelmingly support left-wing teachers unions and politicians who perpetuate the current environment. My sister is a retired school teacher. She’s also a Democrat. We don’t talk about politics.


22 posted on 06/17/2020 9:50:23 AM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: Leaning Right

But teachers no longer have any input on what’s being taught. That all comes from central administration.”

That’s very correct, both as a statement of truth, and as an example of political correctness.

Central administration is collectivist central planning, and using cumpuloray tax fundef public education is certainly central planning, and it is certainly communist. When I was in primary grade eithty years ago our schools were locally conrolled, and they did teach manners because our parents and other locals demanded it. And they demanded we were taught the Three R’s” and American history, civics, and American literture—Until the wretched Dick and Jane books came in and began the wreckage of our education system, dumbing down and the insult of lowered expecttions. I honor and respect all the cultured, educated, and decent people trying to effectively teach or chilren to be something other than Smart Phone gazing savages.

So, good for you and the hell with central administration.


28 posted on 06/17/2020 10:08:22 AM PDT by sciencewriter86
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To: Leaning Right

“...So a kid who would have been thrown out of school in the old days is now sent right back to class,...”


This is especially true with kids who are genuinely mental cases. They get IEPs that pretty much limit how, when and how much punishment they receive. And because they are ‘handicapped’ the law requires that their education be as little restricted as possible. That means besides occasionally hitting the teacher, they get to hit your kid with impunity.

It’s not just cowardly administrators, they have to follow the laws passed by Congress (and, yes, I know that education is not one of the enumerated powers). I know that Obama’s Ed Department had very strict guidelines on school punishments, including basically demands that blacks could not be suspended/expelled at a higher rate than whites no matter what they did. Hopefully this is less an issue now.


31 posted on 06/17/2020 11:00:38 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Leaning Right; Ann Archy; All
Manners should be taught at home by the parents. Citizenship at school.

We are raising our 3 year old granddaughter full time in our home and she knows her manners and how to be polite. We live in the South and my wife was raised in the South. where manners and respect was expected. I was raised in a military family and moved around a lot but still know manners, courtesy and politeness.

But I can guarantee you that the problem here is not bad manners though. It is NYC and it is disrespect for other people and their well-being.

Who would even think about knocking a 92 year old little lady into a fire hydrant? For what reason? Something like this could have easily killed this poor woman.

Bad manners my ass. This is a bad person. Evil, as far as I'm concerned.

35 posted on 06/17/2020 2:54:42 PM PDT by HotHunt
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