Is it safe to open the US? – We have a way to tell

Vanity ^ | 4/28/2020 | Heartlander

[Heartlander]

Is it safe to open the US? – We have a way to tell

While there are many Americans ready to get back to work and restart the economy, there are also millions of ‘essential workers’ that have been working this whole time – and the businesses that have remained opened have the data we need.

Grocery stores, manufacturing plants, gas stations, all have vital data regarding employee health. The management and HR dept. should be able to quickly supply key data points, such as; number of employees (age, race, gender), amount of COVID-19 cases (if any), number of cases transmitted from employee to employee, what preventative measures have been put in place, how most employees get to work (car or mass transport).

We should be able to quickly crunch this data and drill down where needed to find out what is working, and why there are hot spots. Recommendations can be made accordingly and we would have a safer workforce moving forward.

We need to restart the US economy and this shared data could help businesses, and make employees feel safer returning to work.

Where I live, there is currently just over 200 COVID-19 cases in a town of approximately 200,000 people. I am an ‘essential worker’ at a defense contractor and we’ve been open the entire time without one known case of COVID-19. Policies have been put in place including; safe distancing, voluntary face masks, doors are left open, motion sensor faucets have been installed, and meetings are thru phone/computer. Accommodations have been made to allow employees to work from home if possible – they have also been allowed to use all of their sick time/vacation or take a leave of absence, without penalty.

[Vendome]

We don’t need to crunch anything

We have never, ever in human history sequestered healthy people and the infirm.

Release us from this overrated and over stated crap so, we can get back to work

Already, they have crushed the dreams and aspirations of restaurants in the San Francisco Bay and Monterey Bay Area as restaurant after restaurant has called it quits.

Their achievements and dreams have now ended

[SamAdams76]

My son works for a major supermarket chain in the Northeast in a logistics position at their front office. They have about 30,000 employees and a hundred stores. They have been open throughout and are very busy. Yet they have had very few employees test COVID positive and no fatal cases as of yet. They have been running perpetually short-handed on front end workers however because many parents are not allowing their teenage children to work there and many elderly employees have elected to stay home.

This is why in many supermarkets, you are seeing managers and supervisors bagging groceries and running the registers.

[semimojo]

The management and HR dept. should be able to quickly supply key data points, such as; number of employees (age, race, gender), amount of COVID-19 cases (if any), number of cases transmitted from employee to employee...

Not a bad idea but I have zero confidence in most HR departments to have reliable data on this. HIPAA is just one hurdle.

[seawolf101]

IS IT SAFE?

[RoseofTexas]

The china virus hair on fire cabal will never ever let it go, NEVER while trump is in office...until after November when god forbid Biden wins! Then only then will they declare the china virus null and void!! After November 3 if the rats win they will consider it a miracle that the China virus has been eradicated! They will no longer even mention it on the nightly news!

[Vermont Lt]

Open it up. Plenty of room in the hospitals.

If the hospitals fill up and people start dying...isolate, isolated areas.

Seems pretty simple.

[Jayster]

“ We don’t need to crunch anything”

That is correct! But the numbers need to be crunched to show others that the mandated shit just doesn’t make sense.

What is the other option? Not show data disputing the BS... and just wait for them to figure it out on their own?

I hear you though...

[concentric circles]

The data is in — stop the panic and end the total isolation

Scott W. Atlas, MD, is the David and Joan Traitel Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution and the former chief of neuroradiology at Stanford University Medical Center.

These are his major points, his explainations may be found at the linked article.

Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from COVID-19.

Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding.

Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem.

Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections.

Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures.

[IndispensableDestiny]

Hospitalizations appear to me as the most objective metric.

[ncpatriot]

Eventually, we are going to have to take our medicine ie develop herd immunity. We just keep putting it off.

[CharlesWayneCT]

We’ve had a couple of cases at our work site, but none that seem to have been started here, or spread here. Same with my son’s work, a couple people who hung out outside work. They are very cautious, taking temperatures daily, and they work in a clean-lab environment most of the time.

But I’m asking the people at the restaurants and grocery stores I am using, and nobody is SAYING that they know anybody at work who got sick.

We do know that there were big spreads at some meat processing plants, although that may be related to illegal workers who don’t understand social distancing or the language the warning signs were posted in.

I would love to have a breakdown in the state numbers of how many spreads were found at open stores.

But our numbers do have “outbreak” information, and a large majority of our outbreaks are assisted living centers, and the second big number is apartment complexes and houses. The entire set of shopping/etc. is a very small number of outbreaks. Unfortunately, outbreaks are a small part of infections.