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To: enumerated
I have come to believe he’s right

Do you believe that Gen. Michael Flynn shares that belief?

News just emerged while we have been exchanging views of new evidence of more illegal behavior and cover-up by the FBI. When I say that the political ramifications for the politicization of the rule of law in the Hillary Clinton cases is leading to a breakdown of the rule of law and to extreme political consequences, we see that assertion confirmed every day in the case against Flynn.

Do you believe the George Papadopoulos shares that belief?

Here is a man who was flatly framed by the FBI and the Moeller team.

Do you believe that Page shares that belief?

Here is a man who narrowly avoided prosecution but who has found his life and reputation ruined by political machinations of law enforcement.

I ask you when it becomes necessary politically to intervene against miscarriages of law because the political consequences become perilous to the whole nation? Resorting to more likekind evil in reaction to the evil itself!

What about those who were legally guilty of some offenses but who were nevertheless the victims of political prosecutions, like Manafort (locked up in solitary confinement) lawyer Cohen and, of course, Roger Stone no doubt guilty but convicted without due process.

Do you say that these people who were convicted wrongfully for political reasons and these people who were politically prosecuted should suffer miscarriages because it's "politically expedient?" Are we to let one wrong justify a second? Where will the good began, where will evil end?

Yours is a well reasoned position but I think flawed. For example, you are quite right, there is a double standard in the media and that makes the Republicans look unjust when they pursue justice and the Democrats look magnanimous when they subvert it.

However, the president's comments in that debate which I quoted in the previous reply were in fact an implicit promise to prosecute and that is why I called the promise "implicit" and not "explicit." Likewise, candidate Trump's repeated condoning of the chant "lock her up" at his rallies was further implicit promise of real, righteous prosecutions. It seems to me that when millions of people vote in exchange for a clear promise that promise needs more than just political expediency to justify to the millions why it is broken and more than political expediency as an explanation why their vote was betrayed.

I think you are quite correct when you say that the hand of criminal prosecution against Hillary Clinton was stayed by Donald Trump, and I think he has paid a bigger price than even those individuals I listed above. The Moeller investigation fiasco, the impeachment fiasco are but examples. Yet we are all paying the price for that mistake and we will continue to pay the price so long as we continue to trade away justice for short-term political expediency.


75 posted on 04/25/2020 4:27:10 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

“Yet we are all paying the price for that mistake and we will continue to pay the price so long as we continue to trade away justice for short-term political expediency.”

Political expediency? Is that what you think President Trump is doing, and what I am defending?

The problem isn’t political expediency. The problem is that political expediency needs to be a consideration.

The problem is the American people. This isn’t the America you are imagining.

The American people of today can’t handle the President and DOJ of one party throwing the top brass of the opposition party in prison, no matter how well deserved.

Maybe two hundred years ago something like that could have happened. But back then, they had public hangings, the money was 100% backed by gold, and if a man was wronged, he could mete out swift justice on the spot, without having to ask the government’s permission.

In today’s America, we are so easily brainwashed and won’t fight for anything. We have just proved it in the last month by obediently closing down our businesses, and scuttling our very livelihoods, because some state governors ordered it.


78 posted on 04/25/2020 9:54:45 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: nathanbedford

Excellent, thank you.


79 posted on 04/25/2020 3:53:44 PM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: nathanbedford
Consider this, Bedford.

When Trump said, 'You'd be in jail', Hillary and the derp state knew he meant it. That's when they turned up the heat on their takedown. They had to protect themselves at all costs.

Is it possible that the Donald saying later that Hillary shouldn't be prosecuted was his attempt to rectify his mistake of warning her (them) so that the derp/Hillary takedown could proceed under the radar, as it has been doing?

Think about that.

People need to look deeper and think harder.


81 posted on 04/26/2020 4:13:53 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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