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1 posted on 04/03/2020 3:04:22 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Thanks for the report. Was on Tucker earlier this week.


2 posted on 04/03/2020 3:05:49 PM PDT by Chgogal (Wuhan Virus, Chinese Virus, Kung Fu Virus - Wuhan Chinese Kung Fu Virus aka CCP virus.)
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To: grundle

Just a thought: What if the China numbers are accurate? Where does that leave the world vs China?


3 posted on 04/03/2020 3:11:38 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: grundle

Another one of those crazy conspiracy accounts that came from Senator Cotton. He doesn’t know what he is talking about, just mouthing something that he got from the crack pots at Fox News. We all know that it came accidently from one of the wet markets. NBC, CNN, PBS, MSNBC, NYT, and Washington Post have been reporting the truth for months, and they are very well connected with the right people in China.


4 posted on 04/03/2020 3:14:11 PM PDT by centurion316 (.)
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To: grundle
The MSM has already decided who created the virus and it wasn't China.


5 posted on 04/03/2020 3:15:17 PM PDT by Bon mots
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The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus Botao Xiao1,2* and Lei Xiao3 1 Joint International Research Laboratory of Synthetic Biology and Medicine, School of Biology and Biological Engineering, South China University of Technology, Guangzhou 510006, China 2 School of Physics, Huazhong University of Science and Technology, Wuhan 430074, China 3 Tian You Hospital, Wuhan University of Science and Technology, Wuhan 430064, China * Corresponding author: xiaob@scut.edu.cn Tel / Fax: 86-20-3938-0631
The 2019-nCoV coronavirus has caused an epidemic of 28,060 laboratory-confirmed infections in human including 564 deaths in China by February 6, 2020. Two descriptions of the virus published on Nature this week indicated that the genome sequences from patients were 96% or 89% identical to the Bat CoV ZC45 coronavirus originally found in Rhinolophus affinis 1,2. It was critical to study where the pathogen came from and how it passed onto human. An article published on The Lancet reported that 41 people in Wuhan were found to have the acute respiratory syndrome and 27 of them had contact with Huanan Seafood Market 3. The 2019-nCoV was found in 33 out of 585 samples collected in the market after the outbreak. The market was suspicious to be the origin of the epidemic, and was shut down according to the rule of quarantine the source during an epidemic. The bats carrying CoV ZC45 were originally found in Yunnan or Zhejiang province, both of which were more than 900 kilometers away from the seafood market. Bats were normally found to live in caves and trees. But the seafood market is in a densely-populated district of Wuhan, a metropolitan of ~15 million people. The probability was very low for the bats to fly to the market. According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the market. There was possible natural recombination or intermediate host of the coronavirus, yet little proof has been reported. Was there any other possible pathway? We screened the area around the seafood market and identified two laboratories conducting research on bat coronavirus. Within ~280 meters from the market, there was the Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention (WHCDC) (Figure 1, from Baidu and Google maps). WHCDC hosted animals in laboratories for research purpose, one of which was specialized in pathogens collection and identification 4-6. In one of their studies, 155 bats including Rhinolophus affinis were captured in Hubei province, and other 450 bats were captured in Zhejiang province 4. The expert in collection was noted in the Author Contributions (JHT). Moreover, he was broadcasted for collecting viruses on nation-wide newspapers and websites in 2017 and 2019 7,8. He described that he was once by attacked by bats and the blood of a bat shot on his skin. He knew the extreme danger of the infection so he quarantined himself for 14 days 7. In another accident, he quarantined himself again because bats peed on him. He was once thrilled for capturing a bat carrying a live tick 8. Surgery was performed on the caged animals and the tissue samples were collected for DNA and RNA extraction and sequencing 4, 5. The tissue samples and contaminated trashes were source of pathogens. They were only ~280 meters from the seafood market. The WHCDC was also adjacent to the Union Hospital (Figure 1, bottom) where the first group of doctors were infected during this epidemic. It is plausible that the virus leaked around and some of them contaminated the initial patients in this epidemic, though solid proofs are needed in future study. The second laboratory was ~12 kilometers from the seafood market and belonged to Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences 1, 9, 10. This laboratory reported that the Chinese horseshoe bats were natural reservoirs for the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) which caused the 2002-3 pandemic 9. The principle investigator participated in a project which generated a chimeric virus using
the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, and reported the potential for human emergence 10. A direct speculation was that SARS-CoV or its derivative might leak from the laboratory. In summary, somebody was entangled with the evolution of 2019-nCoV coronavirus. In addition to origins of natural recombination and intermediate host, the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan. Safety level may need to be reinforced in high risk biohazardous laboratories. Regulations may be taken to relocate these laboratories far away from city center and other densely populated places. Contributors BX designed the comment and performed literature search. All authors performed data acquisition and analysis, collected documents, draw the figure, and wrote the papers. Acknowledgements This work is supported by the National Natural Science Foundation of China (11772133, 11372116). Declaration of interests All authors declare no competing interests. References 1. Zhou P, Yang X-L, Wang X-G, et al. A pneumonia outbreak associated with a new coronavirus of probable bat origin. Nature 2020. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-020-2012-7. 2. Wu F, Zhao S, Yu B, et al. A new coronavirus associated with human respiratory disease in China. Nature 2020. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-020-2008-3. 3. Huang C, Wang Y, Li X, et al. Clinical features of patients infected with 2019 novel coronavirus in Wuhan, China. The Lancet 2019. https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(20)30183-5. 4. Guo WP, Lin XD, Wang W, et al. Phylogeny and origins of hantaviruses harbored by bats, insectivores, and rodents. PLoS pathogens 2013; 9(2): e1003159. 5. Lu M, Tian JH, Yu B, Guo WP, Holmes EC, Zhang YZ. Extensive diversity of rickettsiales bacteria in ticks from Wuhan, China. Ticks and tick-borne diseases 2017; 8(4): 574-80. 6. Shi M, Lin XD, Chen X, et al. The evolutionary history of vertebrate RNA viruses. Nature 2018; 556(7700): 197-202. 7. Tao P. Expert in Wuhan collected ten thousands animals: capture bats in mountain at night. Changjiang Times 2017. 8. Li QX, Zhanyao. Playing with elephant dung, fishing for sea bottom mud: the work that will change China’s future. thepaper 2019. 9. Ge XY, Li JL, Yang XL, et al. Isolation and characterization of a bat SARS-like coronavirus that uses the ACE2 receptor. Nature 2013; 503(7477): 535-8. 10. Menachery VD, Yount BL, Jr., Debbink K, et al. A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence. Nature medicine 2015; 21(12): 1508-13.
Figure 1. The Huanan Seafood Market is close to the WHCDC (from Baidu and Google maps).


6 posted on 04/03/2020 3:16:57 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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7 posted on 04/03/2020 3:18:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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There was a YouTube video , Titled Covid-19, The Real Story Behind Covid-19. It was posted on March 29 2020 and had 11,355 views, but appears to have disappeared or been removed. Did anyone see this video or know anything about it? The theories seemed similar to this particular postings here, but had added feature causes such as 5G, US CIA, etc., but the information came from the Netherlands and from its scientists or academics.
8 posted on 04/03/2020 3:25:25 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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One of the great things about science is the peer review process.....

Maybe in the old days. But nowadays peer often translates to colleague.

With politically correct science, if you come to the accepted conclusion, anyone in the old boy network would be happy to rubberstamp it.

Politically incorrect findings are another matter.


9 posted on 04/03/2020 3:27:42 PM PDT by Ceebass (judas, arnold, quisling, romney)
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“And I’m also curious to know why the original link no longer works.”

Chicomm hackers are deluging the site and trying to destroy the document/evidence of the Level-4 BioWarfare Lab’s involvement.


10 posted on 04/03/2020 3:29:43 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: grundle

WHO needs.tonbe put out of business permanenly. Along with the rest of the UN.


12 posted on 04/03/2020 3:32:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: grundle

They’ve got to have more than that to prove anything.

But it could be a start.

Also, it’s very odd that we haven’t heard before now that bats were never sold at this market.


14 posted on 04/03/2020 3:37:59 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: grundle

I guess “duh” is not a very scientific assessment, but, duh.


15 posted on 04/03/2020 3:41:06 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: grundle

Shocked face ping.


16 posted on 04/03/2020 3:41:19 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: grundle

Were they perhaps studying the efficacy of HCQ on COVID-19 VIRUS?


17 posted on 04/03/2020 3:43:53 PM PDT by 353FMG ( .)
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There’s little question in my mind that CV-19 is an engineered bioweapon.

Consider the following article published in Italy in 2015

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinese-biological-experiments-infect-humans-coronavirus-exposed-2015-italian-state

The article is so weird, it reminds me of the flight school guys in FL who wondered why in the heck these mideastern types wanted to learn how to fly planes but they didn’t want to learn how to land.

The article says the Chinese scientists working at their grade 4 lab 1: wanted to engineer a pulmonary bird virus so it could transmit to humans; 2: make it so it could transport through the air and 3: make it very contagious.

They didn’t mind making the bird virus trasmittable to humans and they didn’t mind making it contagious but they were VERY UPSET that it could move through the air.


20 posted on 04/03/2020 4:10:53 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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COVID19 Files – Scientific Investigation On Mysterious Origin Of Coronavirus

As Wuhan’s Coronavirus poses an increasing global threat, more and more experts from various countries have also cast more attention to the source of the new crown virus (COVID-19 or SARS-CoV-2). In this scientific investigation on the mysterious origin of Coronavirus we explore the sources of New Coronavirus from five major areas, including epidemiological investigation, virus gene comparison, cross-species infection research, key “intermediate hosts” and the findings on the Wuhan P4 lab, to provide readers with a deep and completely scientific perspective.

https://greatgameindia.com/covid19-files-scientific-investigation-on-mysterious-origin-of-coronavirus/

21 posted on 04/03/2020 4:13:26 PM PDT by Lockbox
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A scientific paper claims that humans acquired COVID-19 from a Chinese research lab, and not a food market. But instead of having the paper peer reviewed, they are trying to suppress it. The abbreviation for Bat Soup is BS~!

Novel coronavirus cases could have been reduced by 95 percent had China responded to the outbreak just three weeks earlier than it did, a March 13 study by the University of Southampton has found.

President Xi Jinping’s: "The Yellow Peril ChiCom Wuhan Pneumonia Novel Coronavirus aka the Red Death/Mass People Killing Virus, Chinobyl#2, The Yellow Peril, CCP virus Made in China!"


22 posted on 04/03/2020 4:20:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (NYers fleeing NY are presumed to be infected. They should be tested/quarantined in any other state!)
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https://img-prod.tgcom24.mediaset.it/images/2020/02/16/114720192-5eb8307f-017c-4075-a697-348628da0204.pdf


27 posted on 04/03/2020 4:51:24 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: grundle

Probably because too many scientists are funded by the Chinese therefore complicit.


28 posted on 04/03/2020 6:08:17 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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