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Want to know why the US response to Corona was not what it could have been?
Flopping Aces ^ | 04-03-20 | DrJohn

Posted on 04/03/2020 11:51:18 AM PDT by Starman417

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It's actually pretty simple.

It begins with China.

China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths it’s suffered from the disease, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report to the White House, according to three U.S. officials.

The officials asked not to be identified because the report is secret, and they declined to detail its contents. But the thrust, they said, is that China’s public reporting on cases and deaths is intentionally incomplete. Two of the officials said the report concludes that China’s numbers are fake.

The report was received by the White House last week, one of the officials said.

The outbreak began in China’s Hubei province in late 2019, but the country has publicly reported only about 82,000 cases and 3,300 deaths, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. That compares to more than 189,000 cases and more than 4,000 deaths in the U.S., which has the largest publicly reported outbreak in the world.

China destroyed evidence.

Chinese laboratories identified a mystery virus as a highly infectious new pathogen by late December last year, but they were ordered to stop tests, destroy samples and suppress the news, a Chinese media outlet has revealed.

A regional health official in Wuhan, centre of the outbreak, demanded the destruction of the lab samples that established the cause of unexplained viral pneumonia on January 1. China did not acknowledge there was human-to-human transmission until more than three weeks later.

The detailed revelations by Caixin Global, a respected independent publication, provide the clearest evidence yet of the scale of the cover-up in the crucial early weeks when the opportunity was lost to control the outbreak.

Censors have been rapidly deleting the report from the Chinese internet.

China refused to allow US authorities in to help fight the virus

Amid its outbreak of coronavirus that has killed over 100 people and sickened more than 4,500, China refused two direct offers from the US to send infectious disease experts to help fight the virus's spread, and a third made via the World Health Organization.

It was only as US Health and Human Services Secretary (HHS) Alex Azar was disclosing this information to reporters in a Tuesday press conference the China at last acquiesced, telling the WHO it would welcome foreign assistance.

Although the global public health community has widely praised China's quick - if 'Draconian' - work to address the ongoing coronavirus epidemic, the Communist Party run nation is haunted by its secretive handling of past outbreaks.

China has "disappeared" another whistleblower:
A Chinese doctor who claimed her bosses tried to silence her early warnings about coronavirus appears to have disappeared — stirring fears that she was detained, according to new reports.

Ai Fen had pointed out cases of the illness to colleagues at Wuhan Central Hospital, eight of whom were reprimanded themselves, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported.

The whereabouts of Ai, who is head of the emergency department, are now unknown, 60 Minutes Australia reported Monday.

“Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world,” the outlet tweeted. “She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown.”

And then this was prolonged by the World Health Organization (who some call the Chinese Health Organization)  who claimed COVID 19 is not contagious

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

The head of the World Health Organization is Xi's stooge and he should be in prison.

This is how it all began. This is what Trump and Fauci and Birx had to work with. Blaming Trump and Fauci for accepting the word of China and the WHO is stupid and pathetic hindsight.

Now China is desperately trying to rewrite history and the left media has become China's echo chamber

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KEYWORDS: blogpimp; china; corona; covid; pelosi

1 posted on 04/03/2020 11:51:18 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417
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Nope.

What stopped you from posting it?

2 posted on 04/03/2020 11:54:11 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Starman417

Next time make sure you go out and get a virus as soon as possible so you can get full treatment at a hospital before they are filled up.


3 posted on 04/03/2020 11:59:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Starman417

Meanwhile, Taiwan, Singapore ^ South Korea ignored the WHO, did not believe the WHO and China, got samples of the virus from China and went ahead to institute their own Covid-19 test kits A.S.A.P, and began testing right afterward, as soon as arrivals from China were coming in.

That leaves our NIH/CDC/FDA as the other half of why the U.S. response lagged.


4 posted on 04/03/2020 12:02:32 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Starman417

No. Plenty of individual Chinese people were able to get warnings to us. Managers and investors here were warned by many of us. They threw tantrums and pushed the politicians to keep everyone out in crowds anyway, and didn’t allow their employees to wear masks.

Globalism and anti-American trade deals of the past forty years caused it.

On this topic, take politics, both sides, and stuff it.


5 posted on 04/03/2020 12:07:15 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Wuli

I was going to post the same thing. South Korea and US had their first case on the same day. South Korea had a much more robust early response. Bizarrely, the US seemed to trust the WHO and China, and fell way behind.


6 posted on 04/03/2020 12:09:24 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Starman417

Something is really not adding up.

6,766 Deaths from COVID-19 in US.
2,935 Deaths from COVID-19 in NY.

43% DEATHS in US from NY.

265,001 Tested for COVID-19 in US.
102,863 Tested for COVID-19 in NY.

38% Of all cases in NY.

Take the Cuomo/Wilhelm DISASTER in NY(Add bordering New Jersey) and how bad are things in the other 48 States?

80 deaths per state over the other 48 States.

We have CRUSHED our economy for a COVID-19 mortality rate of .000020503 across our total population.

If the failure of NY to plan/spend for a Pandemic were not so profound what would we be talking about here!?

H1N1 2009-2010:

From the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Emerging Infections Program laboratory-confirmed hospitalizations across the entire United States, and then corrected for underreporting. From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, we estimate that approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1. Eighty-seven percent of deaths occurred in those under 65 years of age with children and working adults having risks of hospitalization and death 4 to 7 times and 8 to 12 times greater, respectively, than estimates of impact due to seasonal influenza covering the years 1976-2001. In our study, adults 65 years of age or older were found to have rates of hospitalization and death that were up to 75% and 81%, respectively, lower than seasonal influenza. These results confirm the necessity of a concerted public health response to pH1N1.


7 posted on 04/03/2020 12:21:32 PM PDT by LeonardFMason (Lou Dobbs)
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To: LeonardFMason
If the failure of NY to plan/spend for a Pandemic were not so profound, what would we be talking about here!?
Identity Politics Lied. New Yorkers Died

8 posted on 04/03/2020 12:27:54 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: Wuli

“That leaves our NIH/CDC/FDA as the other half of why the U.S. response lagged.”

and don’t forget about the democrat obsession with impeaching Trump in spite of everything else that’s going around.


9 posted on 04/03/2020 12:44:06 PM PDT by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: Starman417

Hey, I got a crazy idea. Howzabout we proceed with policies BASED on the assumption that Red China is not honest? Anyone else tired of US Government making excuses by whining that the biggest communist nation on earth who’s government killed somewhere around 50 million people deceived them? (give or take 10 million)


10 posted on 04/03/2020 1:04:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Starman417

Awwwww how cool, that guy got to meet Winnie the Poo.


11 posted on 04/03/2020 1:07:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Wayne07

Clearly, the FDA’s early response was a mess. It took a barroom brawler like Trump to get them unstuck, and they resisted kicking and screaming the whole way.

One thing we’ve learned from all of this is that the swamp is even swampier than we could have imagined, and that there was tremendous institutional inertia tied up in “partnerships with China” and defending their own turf rather than protecting the American people.

The system is fundamentally broken, but our “solution” seems to be to double-down on the very system that simply didn’t work. Of course, that has revealed, for anyone not willfully blind, that the “system” isn’t set up for the American people, but for the benefit of the deep-state elites.

Tar and feathers anyone?


12 posted on 04/03/2020 1:10:55 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Starman417

It is time to release the lawyers on all of the Chinese assets in the U.S.


13 posted on 04/03/2020 2:52:04 PM PDT by HChampagne (I am ready to crawl over broken glass to get to the polling place for Nov. 2020.)
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To: LeonardFMason
We have CRUSHED our economy for a COVID-19 mortality rate of .000020503 across our total population.

Sorry, but this statement is meaningless. You have to determine what the estimated total deaths would have been with no intervention, and then subtract deaths with intervention. You also need to include secondary deaths from an over-stressed health system.

With nonintervention, some say deaths could have been 3 million and compared to that, intervention deaths will be less than 100,000 (hopefully). So you could say we CRUSHED the economy for 1% of our population.

14 posted on 04/03/2020 4:16:44 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Starman417

The problem, as I see it, is that people listened to what China was telling them, not what they were doing.

I know I, and others here on this board, saw that and started prepping. So if someone was paying attention, they would have seen trouble coming, although I don’t think anyone had any idea it would have gotten so bad and so out of control.


15 posted on 04/03/2020 4:29:16 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

Is the statement false? Is it true?

Are you saying we either “shut it all down”, crushing the economy, OR we do “nothing” in the way of mitigation? There were the only those 2 options?

I don’t accept there wasn’t some middle ground that would have allowed the economy to operate while also working at mitigating the spread of the virus.


16 posted on 04/03/2020 5:55:33 PM PDT by LeonardFMason (Lou Dobbs)
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To: LeonardFMason
I completely agree that this hadn’t been happened the best ways. It’s been decentralized without prudence. For example even with self-isolation there’s still the potential for transmission at grocery stores. Neighborhoods could all be assigned a store, and the store could know who shops there. That’s just one thought of which there are much better needed.

We — Americans — need to think of beating this thing as a war. Wars require sacrifice, unusual actions, unity against a foe, and severe punishment of traitors and those who expose the nation to danger. By this time we all recognize the possibility that this virus is in fact a deliberate act of war by China.

17 posted on 04/04/2020 6:29:45 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Starman417
identified a mystery virus as a highly infectious new pathogen by late December

Identified it in December after it had been circulating for how many months before that?

I've been saying all along that people who thought they may have suffered various levels of a cold or even pneumonia as early as October quite likely had the Covid 19 virus....

18 posted on 04/04/2020 6:39:28 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (How did I survive the Swine flu and the killer flu of 2017-18 without govt. help?)
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