Posted on 03/18/2020 5:32:26 AM PDT by Enlightened1
“HOWEVER, “infected” does NOT necessarily mean “become seriously ill from”. I have a feeling that most of us have ALREADY been exposed, and had a mild-to-non-existent reaction.”
It’s a comforting thought, but the virus simply hasn’t had the time for that. Not even in a totally fluid population - of which none exist outside of laboratory conditions.
Much of the population of the time lived in isolated places. Furthermore, while the disease was a global pandemic, travel was slower and much lighter volume. Consider, weeks to get to Europe versus hours. Consider, more people normally fly to Europe in a month (and back) than the entire troop contingent sent from the US to Europe in WWI. And other flu strains would have conferred some herd immunity. Also, people actually were isolated and quarantined for the Spanish Flu, which further slowed its comparatively slow movement.
So every metric that suggests wider and faster transmission today is accepted, while very metric that favors the same one hundred years ago is not. Heads I win, tails you lose I guess.
World Health Organization Severely Overstated the Fatality Rate of the Coronavirus.
When you have friends in the media it’s allowed and just think of all the face time you get on TV.
Reasoning + Trust = Logic
Still comes on the gaslighting gateway spudnik.
We know the deaths with more precision than we know the number of people who contract the bug. This is true with the flu or whatever the virus. The Covid-19 for all we know could be 10X more prevalent because for the vast majority the symptoms range for none to mild and they aren’t tested. If the N= 10X higher that the confirmed cases then the death rate is 10X lower.
You’re simply wrong. It happens.
Today’s technology favors faster transmission than in 1918. Access to every part of the world is greater. More people fly somewhere else in the world, even to different continents, in a week than migrated for any reason during any year of WWI. Mostly due to travel time. Boats then, planes now.
Assuming equal virulence and no efforts at containment this thing would do in a few months more damage than the Spanish Flu did during it’s entire run. That’s percentage-wise, never mind absolute numbers.
Fortunately we have 100 more years of medical progress and massive world-wide containment efforts. We will be fine, but people who are still scoffing or even engaging in outright paranoid fantasies are going to be part of the problem.
Sure.
“We know the deaths with more precision than we know the number of people who contract the bug. This is true with the flu or whatever the virus. The Covid-19 for all we know could be 10X more prevalent because for the vast majority the symptoms range for none to mild and they aren’t tested. If the N= 10X higher that the confirmed cases then the death rate is 10X lower.”
If there were a bunch of people running around with no symptoms, they’d be starting hotspots all over the place because we know for a fact that asymptomatic infected can transmit the disease.
Those 80% mild/asymptomatic people are among the quarantined & tested. 15% of cases are hospitalized. 5% need an ICU. Those are roughly the stats from everywhere.
People that test negative for a disease (else they’d be turning up in droves in SK due to widespread testing and contact tracing), show no symptoms and can’t infect anybody else are called “healthy” (with respect to CV, anyway). Otherwise we might just as well assume everybody has it and watch our HCS crumble. Like France, Italy, Spain. Wuhan. Iran.
Sorry but load of bunk. Thr mortality rate for the commons flu is nowhere near 10%.
Try around something like .013%
The best numbers to work from are S Korea because they are testing 10k-20k a day... and haven’t overwhelmed their system so those that do get severe cases are getting adequate and appropriate care.. and their mortality rate is about 1%.
Or in other words, the corona virus is about 100 times more deadly that the common flu across the population as a whole... but when you look at age groups the difference will vary wildly.
Not sure where this article got its data came from but if the common flu type a had a 10% mortality rate you would have deaths annually in the us between 20,000,000 and 80,000,000 range which is nonsensical.0
You have to read the article.
That is what the Flu is using the same W.H.O. math they did with Coronavirus.
In other words they have two different ways of doing calculations. One for the Flu and the other for Coronavirus.
Regarding the Flu they add 36 million because the CDC really does not know how many people have the flu. Hence the mortality rate number is lower.
However, if you take KNOWN FLU CASES (minus the 36 million speculation by the CDC based on a guess) and compare it to the actually number deaths. It comes to 10%.
I agree with the CDC has to take a wild guess there are more people with it. Well do the same with Coronavirus, but they will not, and only few people have been tested.
Let me ask you this though? Do you know anyone that has died from Coronavirus or a friend that knows someone that died from Coronavirus? I do not and I do not know anyone who does?
However, if you calculate it the way the W.
Please ignore last line of line of post #70.
I did not delete it before I replied.
as i said, “also bad at math”
You are?
look. you are welcome to be a part of the Retard Brigade. its a free country. go out, have a beer and a pizza with a bunch of friends. We havent done enough and the surge is going to be bad when it comes.
I can’t go out and have a beer or a pizza since the restaurants are all shut down. As for the retard brigade, well, you’re a real winner pal.
the real winners will be the people trying to get into the hospital in a couple of weeks because they cant breathe. maybe you think ‘retard brigade’ is too harsh. maybe i should go with ‘flubros’. whatever. people are going to die, and anyone not taking this seriously bears some responsibility for it. There has been more than ample warning for anyone with two brain cells to rub together
We’re all going to die...eventually.
The Gateway Pundit is an unreliable source, putting it mildly.
Yet folks keep posting from GP. I don't get it.
so why wait? what is your point exactly?
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