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To: kingu

I’ve heard that argument before. It makes sense, but term limits are a reset. It also weeds out the career politico.

Hard to get entrenched when you are only around for 8 years. You need to deal with the issues at hand instead of kicking the can down the road.

It keeps deep state on their back feet, because they need to keep retraining and rebranding candidates. That costs resources and money.

If somebody is a safe district forever, there is no need to divert resources.

Introduction of term limits would cause a disruption that they may never be able to recover from. As long as the pressure is on.


13 posted on 02/29/2020 6:52:45 AM PST by angmo (America invented the Moon, so we could go there.)
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To: angmo

We need asymmetrical warfare against the left and cause them to bleed everywhere. Term limits is a logistics nightmare for them.

I’d sure like a piece of crap like Lindsey Graham to be turfed by term limits.

Incumbents have too much power when a lowlife like that pig gets reelected in one of the reddist states in the US.


17 posted on 02/29/2020 7:00:49 AM PST by angmo (America invented the Moon, so we could go there.)
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To: angmo
I’ve heard that argument before. It makes sense, but term limits are a reset. It also weeds out the career politico.

John Garamendi (D) congressman

1 term in the California state assembly (1974)
4 terms in the California state senate (then term limits kicked in) (1976)
A term as California's Insurance Commissioner (1991)
US Deputy Sec of Interior (1995)
Insurance commissioner again (2003)
Lt Gov California (2007)
US Congressman (2009)

Tell me again how term limits stop career politicians?

19 posted on 02/29/2020 7:04:06 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: angmo
Hard to get entrenched when you are only around for 8 years. You need to deal with the issues at hand instead of kicking the can down the road.

Now let's discuss this... How has term limits helped California from kicking the can down the road? Before term limits, most retirement benefits for public employees were counted as part of their pay in budgets. Once term limits kicked in, CalPERS promised 7%+ returns, had government entities kick in MUCH less on retirement, and included promises of lifetime health care (at the time, insurance, which is now replaced entirely with HMOs.)

That can alone accounts for nearly a half trillion in liabilities owed by the governmental entities in California, but it sure made the government employee unions happy and ensured they'd vote as a block for candidates who supported keeping the status quo.

There is no reset in term limits; you're just ensuring that the person doesn't have to worry about reelections and can do whatever they please, because they'll be going after a new constituency in the near future and empowering their staff to stay on 'because they know the job.'

24 posted on 02/29/2020 7:09:22 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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