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Postcard From Pre-Totalitarian America
The American Conservative ^

Posted on 02/29/2020 5:07:47 AM PST by TigerClaws

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1 posted on 02/29/2020 5:07:47 AM PST by TigerClaws
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Some people seem to think that the Arendt list is somehow faulting the Left. It’s not, at least not intentionally. She said these factors were present in both Germany, which went to the hard right, and Russia, which went to the hard left.

The article loses me right there.

Hitler, and his regime, were Leftist.

2 posted on 02/29/2020 5:32:36 AM PST by sauropod (David Horowitz: “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”)
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[Hannah Arendt] said these factors were present in both Germany, which went to the hard right, and Russia, which went to the hard left. 

First, fascism was an offshoot of socialism. Mussolini was a loyal member of the Italian socialist party and editor of their newspaper until he left based on foreign policy disagreement - not economic ones.

Second, although the economic right/left axis is important, more important is the authoritarian/freedom axis. In the end the economic justification of a totalitarian state doesn't matter because the government is in charge of everything and the individual citizens are not.

3 posted on 02/29/2020 5:34:18 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Democrats couldn't count a Siskel and Ebert vote, but they'll still try with those dead Chicagoans.)
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To: sauropod

I agree. Antisemites but socialists. More government control = leftist.

This is also excellent.

https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA

Decades old a KGB defector describes accurately what the Marxists have done to our country.


4 posted on 02/29/2020 5:35:45 AM PST by TigerClaws
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“Loneliness Social Atomization Loss of Faith In Hierarchies And Institutions The Desire To Transgress And Destroy Indifference to Truth, and the Willingness To Believe Useful Lies A Mania for Ideology A Society That Values Loyalty More Than Expertise The Politicization of Everything If you think we’re not going on full-tilt on these things, you aren’t paying attention.”

More punctuation and less capitalization, please.


5 posted on 02/29/2020 5:41:24 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: TigerClaws
The author of this piece is Rod Dreher (click here)
6 posted on 02/29/2020 5:53:39 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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It's good to look ahead and determine who will be your “block captain”, should the communists take over this nation.

They are the leftist rats on your street, the busy bodies, gossips and snitches. They will potentially report you, swat you, or red flag you.

I know who mine is and is plain as day. Couple neighbors and I have discussed this topic and keep our information and beliefs to ourselves and when other neighbors start repeating this neighbor's busy body gossip, we plainly reply that this person is too much into everyone’s affairs and if they're gossiping about me, or the other neighbors they are doing it about you too, so be careful what you talk about. This has quieted it down a bit.

7 posted on 02/29/2020 6:05:07 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
The original had that as a list.

Hannah Arendt, in her 1951 study The Origins of Totalitarianism, said these factors in German and Russian society made them susceptible to Nazism and Bolshevism, respectively:

Loneliness
Social Atomization
Loss of Faith In Hierarchies And Institutions
The Desire To Transgress And Destroy 
Indifference to Truth, and the Willingness To Believe Useful Lies
A Mania for Ideology
A Society That Values More Than Expertise
The Politicization of Everything

If you think we’re not going on full-tilt on these things, you aren’t paying attention.

I think still I have a copy of "The Origins of Totalitarianism" from college, when it was seen as a warning rather than an instruction manual.
8 posted on 02/29/2020 6:06:52 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Democrats couldn't count a Siskel and Ebert vote, but they'll still try with those dead Chicagoans.)
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Well, that is easier to read.


9 posted on 02/29/2020 6:11:18 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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Thank you. Posted on a smartphone.

This is worth reading as well:

Three Decades Ago, America Lost Its Religion. Why?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/atheism-fastest-growing-religion-us/598843/

Although belief in God is no panacea for these problems, religion is more than atheism. It is a bundle: a theory of the world, a community, a social identity, a means of finding peace and purpose, and a weekly routine. Those, like me, who have largely rejected this package deal, often find themselves shopping à la carte for meaning, community, and routine to fill a faith-shaped void. Their politics is a religion. Their work is a religion. Their spin class is a church. And not looking at their phone for several consecutive hours is a Sabbath.


10 posted on 02/29/2020 6:42:09 AM PST by TigerClaws
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The absolute first requirement for woke totalitarianism is government and bureaucratic centralism. Once you have power collected in the center, in the national government, its only a matter of time.

And in America today, nearly all Americans love the power of Fed.gov.


11 posted on 02/29/2020 7:24:38 AM PST by PGR88
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Very good - thanks for posting. We can see exactly what is described and it’s not comfortable. Who promised us comfort? No one. Did we ever expect it to happen to our country? I, for one say NO! A lot of grumblings and “what ifs” went on during the ‘60’s - 70’s and beyond..with relatives, friends and neighbors surely but did we expect it to really happen?


12 posted on 02/29/2020 7:49:51 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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And in America today, nearly all Americans love the power of Fed.gov.

The reason why roads are falling apart is that cities and states can no longer even consider filling a pot hole, much less build a bridge, without applying for a federal grant to do it and appeal any rejection. By then that pothole has turned into a mile of shabby road.

13 posted on 02/29/2020 7:51:16 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Democrats couldn't count a Siskel and Ebert vote, but they'll still try with those dead Chicagoans.)
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“”And not looking at their phone for several consecutive hours is a Sabbath.””

I thought people shriveled up and faded away if that took place. They don’t?


14 posted on 02/29/2020 7:51:37 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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"It's good to look ahead and determine who will be your “block captain”, should the communists take over this nation"

True that.

As small land owners in the way of a developing community our family would be seen as "Petite bourgeoisie" and no doubt be targeted as were the Cossack of Soviet Union era terrors.

Difference though we are a tight grouped family who value the possession and use of highly dangerous firearms. I see the way the communist treat their Boer farmers in South Africa as an example.

They may come but they will pay the price for their masters.
15 posted on 02/29/2020 8:37:50 AM PST by RedMonqey
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To: TigerClaws
She said these factors were present in both Germany, which went to the hard right, and Russia, which went to the hard left.

99% excellent, until the final paragraph. There was nothing "right" about National Socialism.

16 posted on 02/29/2020 9:51:21 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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I know who mine is and is plain as day.

When the SHTF, do you have a plan to deal with that individual?

17 posted on 02/29/2020 9:55:56 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: imardmd1

Don’t have to go to the movies anymore to see what zombies look & sound like.


18 posted on 02/29/2020 11:31:21 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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“When the SHTF, do you have a plan to deal with that individual?”

We do.

They all start with the letter S.

L


19 posted on 02/29/2020 11:34:37 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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solutions have been discussed


20 posted on 02/29/2020 2:38:01 PM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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