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To: RubinBoomer

It is difficult, because how do you know they are reformed?

Most are out in the population for a period of time, on probation.

One of he conditions for probation is they have no firearms.

How about we allow them limited firearms rights as a condition of probation.

Maybe, no pistols, but a shotgun in the home is ok for the first year.

If they do not mess up, then, maybe a rifle.

If they go through the entire probation without problems, then restore their full rights.


31 posted on 02/26/2020 6:52:33 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain
It is difficult, because how do you know they are reformed?

Exactly. Some are reformed, others will cycle through prison again. Taking this one step further ... So those that reoffend with firearms will do so whether it was legal for them to possess or not. It's back to the same thing, what ever measures taken to keep firearms out of certain classifications of people, criminals will find a way to get them if they want them

So if we take the 2A completely literally, "shall not infringe", there should be zero gun laws, because they do not make people safe and only limit the liberties of man.

39 posted on 02/26/2020 7:10:03 PM PST by RubinBoomer (Please be nice. I am new here. I'm open to doing things the FR way, just need to know.)
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To: marktwain; RubinBoomer
Most are out in the population for a period of time, on probation.

Except people on probation are not, as Rubin said, finished serving their sentence. Probation is still a 'jail' sentence, you are just not required to be there based on certain conditions. That said, once probation is over and the full sentence has been served and is gone, you are released as a citizen, so you should have all the rights of a citizen. If society cannot trust you to be out in public with a firearm, then how can society trust you in public without one? Voting, firearms, all rights should be automatically restored upon completion of every criminal sentence. Otherwise, you should have gotten a longer sentence.

Not to mention, many felony crimes are violence-free, minor stuff, or stuff that shouldn't even be a felony in the first place. Many prosecutions/crime levels are at the prosecutor's discretion. Why should some people get a felony for doing something, yet someone who did the exact same thing get 50 hours of community service, cause he lucked out on which side of the bed the DA woke up on? A 'compassionate' justice system is just as unfair as a discriminatory one.
45 posted on 02/26/2020 8:20:59 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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