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A Week Ago There Were 547 Coronavirus Cases In China. Now There Are 7,711.
IWB ^ | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/30/2020 10:28:05 AM PST by davikkm

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To: grey_whiskers

It was in FL, so probably.

He was very very sick though, on a respirator for part of that. Had a virus that attacked his heart. He’s only in his early 40’s but this thing whupped him and he looks easily 10 years older now.


41 posted on 01/30/2020 12:10:01 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Yikes! Retroactive well-wishes for him.


42 posted on 01/30/2020 12:16:34 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Ya, he’s fine now. Just a bit slower than he was. And some permanent chronic conditions but he’s alive and that’s what counts.


43 posted on 01/30/2020 12:17:28 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: SeekAndFind
This tracking site from Johns Hopkins University gives us a more regular update:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

In China, there are now 8,237 infections reported.

171 have died and 143 have recovered.

At the John Hopkins site, the most interesting information is the graph at the far left bottom corner. Expand it! It shows that there are far fewer than 200 cases worldwide. This number is not subject to the Chinese "lying". It shows that after nearly 2 weeks, the containment has been quite effective.

Far and away, most of these international cases are singletons which can be traced directly back to people leaving China. There just hasn't been much spread of the disease outside of China.

Consider that even if you believe that the Chinese are grossly understating the number of cases (which I tend to believe), that just makes the worldwide numbers look BETTER in terms of containment.

The ratio of deaths to recoveries is bothersome, but that number probably won't be meaningful until three weeks has elapsed due to the weeks it takes to recover. Again, the Chinese deaths may be under-reported. So look at the individual international cases and see that there have currently been very few deaths outside of China.

44 posted on 01/30/2020 12:28:16 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: davikkm

Based on some epidemiological studies I’ve read, the increased mortality rate of over 10%, and an asymptomatic but contagious period of up to 14 days, this weaponized bug accidentally released by China from its P4 bioweapons lab could kill well over 100,000,000 people before it burns out. Possibly a lot more.

But Trump said something not PC, so it’s all his fault. /leftscum


45 posted on 01/30/2020 12:30:43 PM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good points, thanks.


46 posted on 01/30/2020 1:27:44 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: davikkm

I thought I remember about 2000 cases last week. Maybe 3000.


47 posted on 01/30/2020 1:54:18 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for finally posting some NATURE of deaths.

Still not a very good sampling of what can happen (17 dead and only 2 were very elderly?), but it’s a start.


48 posted on 01/30/2020 1:56:50 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: MarMema

Actually this is EXACTLY the time to get a flu vaccine.

I probably still won’t, but I might consider it for the child.

It helps to weed out what might be ailing one.

If you stop regular flus, one might better identify a more serious threat like the latest virus.


49 posted on 01/30/2020 1:59:04 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Actually this is EXACTLY the time to get a flu vaccine.

I probably still won’t, but I might consider it for the child.

It helps to weed out what might be ailing one.

If you stop regular flus, one might better identify a more serious threat like the latest virus.


You should get the flu vaccine anyway, but you are right, now more than ever.

BTW, I used to get the flu every single year — every single year — (every single year), until I started getting flu vaccines in 1998... never had the flu again once. Ever.


50 posted on 01/30/2020 2:00:50 PM PST by samtheman (Trump Campaign Ad (hopefully): Look at Virginia. Look at NY. What Democrats do.)
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To: jonascord

“So far about 54% die vs recover.”

That’s a ridiculous and meaningless stat.

We haven’t been in this cycle nearly long enough to have good sampling. There are many many people in the PROCESS of (possibly) recovering.

And it is meaningless anyway, because it is not comparing deaths to INFECTED. See previous paragraph again.


51 posted on 01/30/2020 2:05:49 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: diverteach

Exactly. I think the numbers are far greater.


52 posted on 01/30/2020 2:06:25 PM PST by ALASKA (Watching an attempted coup by a thousand cuts....)
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To: samtheman

I rarely ever get a flu. My trouble is much more chronic, permanent maladies.

Although I must say, almost like clockwork I get sick somehow about a month after the semester starts. Looking forward to my next acute malady in about a month from now (basically, always late Feb and late Sept). Community college kids are dirty - as are our many “international” workers who insist on going back to their hellholes and bring things back for us.


53 posted on 01/30/2020 2:08:47 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Whoever is left can carve your comment on your grave marker, if they are still burying, and not just burning the bodies in mass pyres...


54 posted on 01/30/2020 2:49:08 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; samtheman

Yeah thanks. I used to work in vaccine development for BMS.
Had an adult lifetime of mandated flu vaccines for the other thirty years of working in clinical settings.

I get what you’re saying and I encourage flu vaccines but there’s no science behind your proposal.


55 posted on 01/30/2020 4:39:11 PM PST by MarMema (Proud co-pilot for John James)
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To: JonPreston

Rofl


56 posted on 01/30/2020 4:40:17 PM PST by MarMema (Proud co-pilot for John James)
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To: bigbob

The source is a well-known doomer crackpot who has written on hundreds of “we’re all going to die” type topics. Check out his background.


57 posted on 01/30/2020 5:12:52 PM PST by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: MarMema

What’s my proposal? I didn’t think I was making a proposal. Just agreeing that now more than ever it’s good to get a flu shot. But if someone doesn’t want to, I’m totally fine with that. No proposal.


58 posted on 01/30/2020 5:25:46 PM PST by samtheman (Trump Campaign Ad (hopefully): Look at Virginia. Look at NY. What Democrats do.)
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To: MarMema

Maybe “no science” but why not try to better tell if one has something different from an influenza bug?

I had my son do it when ebola was the big thing - that terrified me. I figured while it was quite different, maybe likely eliminating flu from his season would mean if he caught something I’d have to be more wary that it might be something much worse and worth going to the doctor.


59 posted on 01/30/2020 5:48:59 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: jonascord

Thanks alot.

Seriously, how is “how many died” vs “how many are finally recovered” in the span of 4 weeks meaningful, without reference to how many are infected, and how many are in the region (population)?

This is like the divorce non-stat. No, 50% of marriages did not end in divorce (since time immemorial - or at least since about 1978). Saying there are 100 married couples and 50 divorced couples in a given neighborhood does NOT mean half of marriages end in divorce, which is what that old saw was. It only means 1/3 of the population is divorced.


60 posted on 01/30/2020 5:53:37 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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