Posted on 11/23/2019 10:07:01 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.
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What value have you for God that Jesus was willing to suffer on the cross for you?
Wonderful! Thank you, Lord Jesus!
True, as those of living effectual faith, praise and thanks be to God. However, while Christ is God by nature with the Father and the Spirit, functionally Christ was made Lord over creation as a result of His overcoming death and resurrection:
Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. (Acts 2:33)
For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. (Acts 2:34-36)
But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. (Hebrews 10:12-13; cf. 1:13; Ps 110:1; Da 2:44; Mt 22:44; Mr 12:36; Lu 20:43; Ac 2:35 1Co 15:25)
And after the Lord Jesus has hath put all His enemies under his feet (which my flesh needs to be!) then He will deliver the kingdom over to His Father, who shall functionally reign as God over all:
Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. (1 Corinthians 15:24-25)
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15:28)
Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. (Jude 24-25)
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; (Titus 2:13)
Rock of Ages, cleft for me,
Let me hide myself in Thee;
Let the water and the blood,
From Thy wounded side which flowed,
Be of sin the double cure,
Save from wrath and make me pure.
Not the labor of my hands
Can fulfill Thy law’s demands;
Could my zeal no respite know,
Could my tears forever flow,
All for sin could not atone;
Thou must save, and Thou alone.
Nothing in my hand I bring,
Simply to Thy cross I cling;
Naked, come to Thee for dress;
Helpless, look to Thee for grace;
Foul, I to the fountain fly;
Wash me, Savior, or I die.
While I draw this fleeting breath,
When my eyes shall close in death,
When I rise to worlds unknown,
And behold Thee on Thy throne,
Rock of Ages, cleft for me,
Let me hide myself in Thee.
None.
HE just LOVES me!
What kind of hoops does TCOJSOLDS require you to jump through to enter the CELESTIAL level of heaven?
Thought that would be in December.
The price of His Only Begotten Son.
I mean enough to Him that He would willingly go to that cross and die for me.
That puts my value above the cost of everything in the universe.
If you have to ask that question, your spiritual blindness is staggering. If you don’t get the fact that someone willing to die for someone else doesn’t show their inherent value by that action alone, then nothing can explain it to you.
Your question needs clarification: did you mean what value does God place upon me, or did you mean what value have I placed upon God?
” Your question needs clarification: did you mean what value does God place upon me, or did you mean what value have I placed upon God?”
I did not do a good job of asking the question. I will try again.
God values you enough that Jesus lived through the great pain needed to save you.
Because I believe God and Jesus are literally Father and Brother I would say it is a family thing.
Why did He do that for you? Why are you valuable enough for God to have Jesus live through that pain?
Because He loves us and He created us in His image and likeness for fellowship with Him.
He still wants that so He provided an out for those who wanted it.
Father and brother ... Mormnism has a definite twist to it don’t they/you?
Now that you have vented on me, do you have an answer to the question?
Thank you for your response.
When you ask questions without answering those posed to you, can we presume you have an agenda which you do not want revealed?
Jesus was God with us. He explained that to His disicples in John 14, to best of their capacity to comprehend. In essence what He told them was that they had seen the Father because they had seen and interacted with Hin as Jesus. He was explaining to them that all they could see of The Father was where He, The Father, was in their limits of sensing, as Jesus. Now that means your poorly posed question, separating Jesus from being God with us is not answerable ibn the false way you posed it.
One other thing, Mormon, Jesus was not working His way to Godhood, He is God, was God, and will remain God.
Thank you, but I am anything but a victim.
Do you know that you spend more time putting down Mormons then you do building up your beliefs when responding to me.
If the parts of the trinity were not seperate when Jesus was on earth why did He cry out to His other part?
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani ? “ that is, “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”
Matthew 27:46
Christian Standard Bible
As an agenda driven Mormon, you seek any item you may point to as inconsistent. So instead of responding on this thread, I am sending along a freepmail with an explanation I doubt you have ever hear before.
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