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Simulated sunlight reveals how 98% of plastics at sea go missing each year
WUWT ^ | November 8, 2019 | charles the moderator

Posted on 11/08/2019 8:00:33 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

The wording of the title is unfortunate. The plastics don’t “go missing”, they are broken down by sunlight, and are consumed by natural biological organisms.


41 posted on 11/08/2019 11:01:32 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: central_va

“Now throw all trash and garbage over the side. Sweepers.”

We used the fantail for disposal, not the side.

“Sweepers, man your brooms. Clean sweep down, fore and aft. Sweep down all decks, ladders and passageways. Take all trash and garbage to the fantail.”


42 posted on 11/08/2019 11:06:51 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed
Take all trash and garbage to the fantail.

Shows you how long ago I last heard that one.

I am a 'Golden' ShellBack so don't mess.

43 posted on 11/08/2019 11:10:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cuban leaf

George Carlin on The Environment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4

Earth needed us to make plastic.


44 posted on 11/08/2019 12:28:02 PM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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To: teeman8r

LMAO! That can be one way to view this!!! :-)


45 posted on 11/08/2019 12:34:42 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Fresh Wind

And we want to bring more $hitheads into this country from THAT $hithole!?


46 posted on 11/08/2019 12:36:06 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Savage Beast
Couldn’t plastic be degraded into harmless chemicals, in treatment plants, before it is dumped into the oceans,

Plastic is recycled in treatment plants and not dumped anywhere.

The plastics they are referring to is all the debris that ends up in the ocean, 85% of which comes from the Asian continent with China and Indonesia being the top two countries in pollution.

47 posted on 11/08/2019 12:45:32 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

48 posted on 11/08/2019 3:48:59 PM PST by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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To: BwanaNdege

India dumps a butt load and it is not on there.

Did they sponsor the study? ;-)


49 posted on 11/08/2019 3:53:12 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: mwilli20
"Why, pray tell, are we DUMPING plastics in the ocean?"

American are having their plastic waste collected by their garbage services and put on container ships. These ships take the waste to be processed at off shore centers in countries where labor is cheap. Many times these processing centers become overwhelmed by the amount of waste they are receiving. For them, the answer to their problem is easy: Take the excess plastic out to the ocean and dump it.

If we were to process our own plastic, we wouldn't have the ocean dumping. In those countries that do, it is because there is no regulation of what they do.

50 posted on 11/08/2019 3:59:14 PM PST by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: central_va

I remember the “sweepers” words over the ship’s intercom. Whenever I hear about plastic in the oceans, I wonder about all the ships at sea dumping their waste over the back end (fantail). The biggest source would be cruise liners. I know there are laws about such ocean dumping, but how many avoid detection by dumping at night?

I remember a time when our ship received from the Tender an overstock of beef roasts. I remember being in the chain sending 40 20 pound boxes of beef right off the fantail.


51 posted on 11/08/2019 4:10:27 PM PST by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: JimRed

Total malarkey. The inert plastic particles provide substrate for bacteria and microfauna to attach themselves and grow, consuming and breaking up the plastic further as they do. Show me ANY hard evidence of ANY negative effect by such “microparticles”. It’s all sheer speculation.


52 posted on 11/09/2019 6:55:02 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: central_va

Not anymore.

How Do You Take the Trash Out At Sea?

Story Number: NNS020723-42Release Date: 7777/23/2002 4:05:00 PMA

By Fireman (SW/AW) Vernishia Vaughn, USS Wasp (LHD 1) Public Affairs

ABOARD USS WASP, At Sea (NNS) — How do ships that are deployed or underway dispose of their trash? It’s not as easy as dragging a can to the curb.

For Fireman Segun Iluyomade, who is part of the USS Wasp (LHD 1) auxiliary division, working in environmental for a little over two years has taught him the importance of properly processing and dumping trash that is brought in from different work centers.

Proper dumping of trash is vital and, if it is not done correctly, can become unsanitary, unhealthy and life-threatening for marine mammals and fish.

“My job is very challenging and, believe it or not, it has given me a wide range of knowledge,” Iluyomade said. “It is a job that many people on board don’t like and make light of. Not only do I gain knowledge on how vital it is to do the job properly, I also gain knowledge on how to fix some of the equipment if it happens to break down.

“Generally, most of our trash comes from the mess decks, usually 100 to 150 bags of food waste and other things a day, and that is a lot,” said Iluyomade, a Brooklyn, N.Y., native. “Being allowed to dump some trash, such as paper and metal, over the side has eliminated some of the backup that we have had. That allows us to take trash that has to be taken from food service.”

Wasp’s environmental includes five temporary duty personnel from the ship, including both Sailors and Marines.

“The different work centers that provide our personnel give us high quality people,” said Senior Chief Engineman (SW/AW) Raymond Brown of Providence, R.I. “They don’t give us people they want to get rid of.”

When temporary assigned duty Sailors and Marines report to environmental, they attend a training course before working with the machines and the trash. They learn to use the machines and how to properly discard the trash that comes in.

“The job may not be the best job on board,” said Fire Controlman 3rd Class Eric Moore of Macon, Ga., who is TAD to environmental. “But somebody’s got to do it.”

Several machines help environmental to run smoothly and get rid of trash that is on board. The compressed melting unit melts plastics into discs that are placed in a tri-wall until the next underway replenishment transfers the discs to another ship for disposal on shore. The pulper grinds the food and paper waste and discharges it overboard.

“We [even] have a metal shredder that shreds metal and glass,” said Iluyomade.

Every job on board is important and plays a vital role in the ship’s mission. Preventing health hazards and unsanitary spaces is environmental’s part, and they are going to do the job until the end.

“Being the one to work in environmental has made me more responsible,” Iluyomade said. “I am not only responsible to my division, but to the whole ship.”

Iluyomade never thought he would be dealing with trash, but now that he has been exposed to the job, he has learned to enjoy it.

“Others may complain about how dirty or nasty the job may be. I consider it a wonderful job because, to the best of my ability, it is done accurately and in a professional manner,” Iluyomade said. “Though some look down on the job and don’t want to do it, it is good to know that others appreciate what I am doing and the service I provide.”

For more news on the USS Wasp (LHD 1), go to www.news.navy.mil/local/lhd1, or visit them on the Web at www.spear.navy.mil/ships/lhd1.


53 posted on 11/10/2019 11:05:56 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: central_va
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54 posted on 11/10/2019 11:11:35 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Trillions of plastic fragments are afloat at sea, which cause large “garbage patches” to form in rotating ocean currents called subtropical gyres. As a result, impacts on ocean life are increasing and affecting organisms from large mammals to bacteria at the base of the ocean food web. Despite this immense accumulation of plastics at sea, it only accounts for 1 to 2 percent of plastic debris inputs to the ocean. The fate of this missing plastic and its impact on marine life remains largely unknown.
Seems like a nice floating template to get some kelp forests, sponges, maybe even coral going. Thanks LTGM.

55 posted on 11/11/2019 6:11:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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