Posted on 10/23/2019 7:25:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
RE: Freedom to spread Trump lies .
Let me correct that, Freedom to post articles that you are not happy about so that PEOPLE CAN REFUTE THEM WITH EVIDENCE REASON AND LOGIC.
RE: Your hobby !
My right as a poster
RE: Fraud
If the article is fraudulent, REFUTE IT. I want to read your refutation.
Powerline has done and is doing those things you demand. And it struck me that Paul’s conclusions are far more in sadness than in any sense of exultation.
Thus clown ha ps no idea what Taylor testified to, since he obviously wasn’t privy to the testimony - and the Democrats refuse to allow transcripts to be released to the public. That’s point No. 1.
Point No. 2 - the entire article ignores the elephant in the room: name,y, why should the U.S. be obligated to provide $400 million of taxpayer aid to a country with no discernible strategic value? If the Preaident wanted to withhold aid, it would be within his purview to do so.
And most important is point No. 3 - how is Trump conditioning aid (presuming he did) to a foreign country any different from Obama sending $150 billion to Iran, on the facile “condition” that Iran would cease enriching uranium? If any Presidential behavior has been impeachable in recent years, it’s Obama sending pallets of cash to Iranian mullahs. All done under the guise of a treaty, without a single authorizing vote from Congress.
RE: What the author doesnt tell you because its damning is that under questioning the so called witness admitted that he had NO first hand knowledge only third and fourth hand gossip and rumors
Yes, and what the writer failed to mention is that the Ambassador to the EU, Gordon Sondland responded to Taylor’s so-called “concern” by responding in a text message:
“The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind,”
It's Trump's JOB.
And it was his top priority to find out whether the Biden family was influenced by Ukraine, while there is an ongoing election cycle.
There are more that 40 Republicans who can be, and probably have been, present at the depositions.
RE: It’s Trump’s JOB.
I agree.
If there is evidence of someone using US foreign aid as a leverage to benefit his son, then telling Ukraine, a signatory to an agreement with the USA to investigate cases of corruption ( under Bill Clinton ), to pursue such an investigation is ENFORCING THE LAW, something the President has an obligation to do.
That it happens to benefit him in the 2020 elections and happens to make his political opponent look dirty is irrelevant. If there is DIRT, it’s the truth. What’s illegal about exposing the truth?
No mention of Crowdstrike?
This is yet another reason that there needs to be vigorous cross-examination of such witnesses.
If you keep thinking like that, you’ll just get an ulcer. And the Bidens will still walk free.
I remember Haig saying on TV, “I’m in control here, awaiting the return of the Vice President.” (George H. W. Bush, who was in Houston at the time of the attempt on President Reagan’s life). Haig certainly did get a bum rap.
The VP immediately hopped on Air Force 2 and headed back to Washington.
Doesn’t matter. Today is all that matters. At the exact moment the Dems are moving to force an impeachment trial, A-holes like Romney start sniping at Trump.
And that BS that Powerline was saying Trump committed an unethical impeachable offense....with sadness.
At the moment when he is under attack, they get in a stab or two and try to do more damage. They are trash.
Their article today should have been about State insubordination, CIA treason in the whitehouse, Bidens massive corruption and personally motivated quid pro quo.
But no, they dedicated their page to weakening Trump.
They are trash now. Irredeemable trash... even if 15 years ago they did something good.
Corruption is bad in the Ukraine? Lol. How about the politicians in the USA?
President Trump is trying to get rid of the scum here in the USA.
Republican members of the House Intelligence, Oversight and Foreign Affairs committees have been present from the start.
In the book he is quoted as saying something like “It is ludicrous and a total fabrication that I would spy on the State Department.”
Perhaps ten years ago, Admiral Moorer was involved in buying military hardware (as a private citizen) and shipping them to other countries. He claimed (in some magazine article) it was for their museums! He was quoted saying the EXACT same thing “It is ludicrous and a total fabrication that I would sell military hardware to foreign countries!”
When I saw the more recent quote I remembered him from the book and I must have remembered the quote as well, as I found the book on the shelf and compared the two - they were word for word!
You would think VP Biden was aware of this caveat.
Paul did not say it was impeachable as the aid was sent eventually even though the request for action on Burisma had not occurred. He said it was serious. And you know as well as I that NOTHING will be done to those at State who have interfered and to those in the FBI and IC who have staged a coup. NOTHING will happen to those people so calling for action in an article in a site rarely read by non conservatives would be worse than useless. What Paul did here was preempt Schiff et al and allow conservatives to marshal responses that go beyond name calling.
It was a stab in the back. Their time should have been spent on the things nothing will be done about. It should have been spent on Schiffs connections to the serial homosexual murders in California. It should have been spent on all the deep state connections to Ukrainian graft. To Pelosi’s son. Etc...
Instead, they grimly intone that Trump is corrupt, and at best barely managed to not be overtly criminal. They gave a veneer (that means a fake appearance) of legitimacy to this whole farce.
A stab in the back. Not to mention these people are Trump opponents.
In the latest, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, in Tuesdays closed-door session, deconstructed a key part of the latest Trump impeachment inquiry witness, acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor. In 90 seconds, we had John Ratcliffe destroy Taylors whole argument, McCarthy said. It destroyed Democrats allegation that President Trump pushed Ukraine to investigate both election interference and a company linked to Joe Bidens son with a quid pro quo.
Ratcliffe said on Foxs The Story with Martha MacCallum that it is all is a frame job. Neither this witness or any other witness has provided any evidence of Trumps alleged attempt to hold back military aid to Ukraine, he continued.
The Center for Strategic and International Studies was apparently founded by CIA official Ray Cline, father-in-lawn to Stefan Halper. Admiral Moorer was a leading member, along with General William B. Taylor, George Will, Morris Leibman (the Chicago lawyer Al Haig selected to choose defense lawyers for Nixon), James Woolsey, Kissinger, Brzinsky, Mort Zuckerman, James Schlesinger. Al Haig seems to have been close to General William B. Taylor. They were West Point classmates along with Fred Buzhardt. Silent Coup fingers Al Haig, Bob Woodward, Thomas Moorer and Fred Buzhardt as the major players in Nixon’s demise.
“Al Haig seems to have been close to General William B. Taylor.”
So the guy testifying, William B. Taylor, Jr. is the General’s son!!??
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