[caww]

No it didn't show in programs.....I double check when I uninstall a program. “Defender-Pro” from what I understand reconstitutes itself via the registry even though i periodically do fix's in the reistry I didn't see it there either...it's basically a fake security system from what I’ve read about it after the fact of course. 'Running' programs at start up are difficult for me to read as they are listed in abbreviations which are unclear for me. I'll check out the links you listed and thank you.

[daniel1212]

9/10/2019, 10:42:22 AM · 157 of 159 caww to daniel1212

Windows 10 And All Browsers Are Repeatedly Crashing 9/10/2019, 10:42:22 AM · 158 of 159 caww to daniel1212

But you have been infected with the FR double-post "virus" affecting certain users whose posts warrant duplicates since some do not get the message the first time!