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To: DMZFrank
If a child is born on any of these islands to any U.S. citizen, then that child is considered a national and a citizen of the United States at birth.

It is my understanding that her mother was a citizen due to her birth in Decatur Indiana. If that is accurate, would not Tulsi be a citizen at birth based on the above sentence from your post.

19 posted on 08/21/2019 9:53:00 AM PDT by etcb
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To: etcb

“Citizen at Birth” is not analagous to “naturally born.”

As my post made clear,Samoans born in Samoa to any American citizen parents are “citizens at birth,” by virtue of the Immigration and Naturalization Act, passed in the 20th century long after Article II, Section one clause 5 was ratified in 1787. Prior to it’s passage they would not have been citizens.

The circumstances of a “natural born citizen” leave no other possibility for any nationality other than that of the sovereign soil on which they were born, owing to their birth to two citizen parents within that nation’s borders.

The primary rationale for Article II, section one clause 5
was to minimize the likelihood of undue foreign influence on the Office of POTUS, PARICULARLY from a father who might owe allegiance to a foreign sovereignty.

Read John Jay’s letter to George Washington in his capacity as President of the Constitutional Convention.

“Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

Ther common understanding at that time of Natural Born Citizen was derived from the Swiss jurist Emmerich de vatel’s treatise oon international law, “The Law of Nations.” The US Supreme Court incorparated in toto the entire 212th paragraph of that tome’s description of what constituted a natural born citizen. Two citizen parents and born on the soil. (Jes sanguines and Jus soli)

George Washington borrowed a book on 5 October 1789, according to the records of the New York Society Library.

Staff discovered it was missing when they conducted an inventory of books in the library’s 1789-1792 ledger in 2010. Washington had never returned the book – an essay on international affairs – to the library, which shared a building with the federal government at the time and was used by members of Congress and the cabinet as well as the president.

That book was Emmerich De Vate’ls LAW OF NATIONS!!!


23 posted on 08/21/2019 10:45:19 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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