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The Electoral College could split evenly in 2020. That's good for Trump and bad for democracy.
NBC News ^ | July 31, 2019 | David Mark

Posted on 08/17/2019 6:17:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ve had one electoral college tie in our history, and that was almost an accident. It was Jefferson-Burr, who were the Democratic-Republican ticket.

This was before the 12th Amendment changed the procedure, requiring electors to identify specifically who they were voting for for President and Vice President. They just voted for two people, and whoever came in first was President and whoever came in second was VP.

One of the electors was supposed to vote for someone other than Burr, but they all thought some other elector was going to do it, so they tied. The House (which was Federalist) chose Jefferson.

Other than that, this has never happened. I don’t know why they think there is a “good chance” of it happening.


61 posted on 08/17/2019 8:00:40 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ve had one electoral college tie in our history, and that was almost an accident. It was Jefferson-Burr, who were the Democratic-Republican ticket.

This was before the 12th Amendment changed the procedure, requiring electors to identify specifically who they were voting for for President and Vice President. They just voted for two people, and whoever came in first was President and whoever came in second was VP.

One of the electors was supposed to vote for someone other than Burr, but they all thought some other elector was going to do it, so they tied. The House (which was Federalist) chose Jefferson.

Other than that, this has never happened. I don’t know why they think there is a “good chance” of it happening.


62 posted on 08/17/2019 8:00:41 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP

Good. I had forgotten, and possibly may never have known, that the House was Federalist.

In today’s environment, I expect that they would choose Burr because it would have been better for party politics, though worse for the country.


63 posted on 08/17/2019 8:09:41 PM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: LukeL

You are correct, and I doubt if more than 3-percent of Americans and accurately explain the House method of voting (it’s only state by state). It’s not each House member voting but the consensus of his state representation in the House.


64 posted on 08/17/2019 8:15:34 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A split Electoral College would lead to Civil War, I’m afraid.

I don’t think it will turn out that way, though. One thing the EC often does is exaggerate how great the margin of victory truly was. A 51-49 national vote win can become a 290-240 larger gap in the EC. So folks forget the national vote was razor thin.


65 posted on 08/17/2019 8:16:46 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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To: Hieronymus

The Supreme Court Justice who resigned was David Davis from Illinois. He was considered independent (although appointed by Lincoln).


66 posted on 08/17/2019 8:35:37 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: DrPretorius

Does your comment allude to 2ndDivisionVet?

:)


67 posted on 08/17/2019 8:37:42 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Thank you. The name rings a bell. I do not believe that I ever knew that he was a Lincoln appointee.

You either look things up or have a very good knowledge of history—both of which are to be applauded.

I’m mixing entertainment, education, and working on a report that is due Tuesday noon. Not the ideal way to spend Saturday night, but it beats surfing the net.


68 posted on 08/17/2019 8:45:45 PM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is a very good chance that the Electoral College will split evenly on Election Day, throwing the race into the House of Representatives.

No there isn't. Must be a slow news day.
69 posted on 08/17/2019 10:04:37 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("...a choice between Woke-fevered Democrats and Koch-funded Republicans is insufficient."-Mark Steyn)
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To: DrPretorius

I was going to point out the alludes/eludes flaw but did not want to be accused of being school marmish.


70 posted on 08/17/2019 10:20:47 PM PDT by angry elephant (My MAGA cap is from a rally in Washingon state in May 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah. 500 to 32


71 posted on 08/17/2019 10:25:14 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We see this type of article very four years to remind us of this supposed scary Constitutional thing. Just get out there and vote in droves for our candidate and the Constitution will take care of the rest.


72 posted on 08/17/2019 10:31:01 PM PDT by capydick (“Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The little voting applet is totally rigged. I tested it. It is designed to make votes show 2:1 in favor of abolishing the electoral college.

How about we abolish the free press and the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment while we’re at it?

The left keeps banging a drum that is a call to war, but I don’t think they’re going to like it when it comes.


73 posted on 08/17/2019 10:51:08 PM PDT by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be bad for democracy, which would be good: This is a Constitutional, Representative Republic.


74 posted on 08/17/2019 11:02:33 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

> There is a very good chance that the Electoral College will split evenly on Election Day

There is almost zero chance of this. It’s technically possible, but that’s about it.

Which states are Dems going to win that they didn’t pick up in 2016, anyway? Things are not looking good for them anywhere but their own strongholds.


75 posted on 08/18/2019 3:39:56 AM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
An obscure constitutional provision

Seriously? Obscure? It’s iin the plain text of the Constitution which is the size of a pamphlet, but 10,000 volumes in a legal library, or some rider to an omnibus bill.

76 posted on 08/18/2019 4:51:57 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Hieronymus

Hamilton basically managed it. (Another reason Burr wanted to duel with him.) He called the Federalists into caucus and told them, “I disagree with Mr. Jefferson, but I respect Mr. Jefferson, and that’s more than I can say for Mr. Burr.”


77 posted on 08/18/2019 11:33:07 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Partisan Media Shills update.


78 posted on 08/18/2019 12:03:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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