[SJackson]

I wouldn't doubt the number of a hundred. Jews were persecuted and eliminated in Germany and Austria, and were in many cases defended both by the clergy and townspeople. Arguing it wasn't the purpose of the Crusade to persecute Jews. This motivation dissipated by the third Crusade. I'm comfortable with the fact the the Crusades began to protect access for Christians to the Holy Land, shut down by Muslims. But it had an expansionist motivation as well. The palestinians are wrong, there have been Jews in Israel continuously since the Roman expulsion. There are said to have been about 50 Jewish towns. And yes, they had to defend themselves from the Crusaders. In some cases they fought on their own. Haifa I believe and a few others. Mostly they allied with the Muslims. Guess what, native Christians defended their homes from the Crusaders too. I don't think I've read any, but contemporary accounts from both a Jewish and local Christian perspective still exist.

That said, hardly worth getting too deep into on a thread about the disaster of Notre Dame.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Thank you for the courtesy of your detailed reply.

I had not read any collective such details in my histories of the Crusades.
Specific attacks (such as Haifa?) Certainly.
Attacks (however stupid or selfish such as Constantinople, etc.) against should-be allies or others? Certainly.