Posted on 04/05/2019 12:38:02 PM PDT by PROCON
California gun owners for the last week have been able to legally buy magazines that have been banned for non-law enforcement sales since 2000, sparking a rush on gun shops and efforts by manufacturers to speed the devices to the state. (Photos: Sacramento Black Rifle, San Diego County Gun Owners, Ruger)
Eager California gun owners are rushing to get their hands on magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds as a temporary break from the state’s mag ban is coming to an end.
The ruling that suspended the state law was put into place last week by a federal judge, who in turn granted a stay to California officials while the case continues on appeal. The new order, which becomes effective Friday at 5 p.m., has an allowance for the potentially thousands of new magazines that have been sold in the past week.
In short, on Friday evening California can restart their enforcement of state law prohibiting what are classified as “large capacity magazines,” which includes a ban on making, importing, giving, lending or buying such devices, while the case is in the courts. Likewise, people and businesses who have made, imported, sold, or bought such magazines in the recent window between March 29 and 5 p.m. on April 5, will be able to keep them while the case is still underway.
Many have pointed out this likely means previously ordered mags that arrive after the Friday deadline are illegal.
In the past week, major gun manufacturers and magazine makers have made efforts to ship the devices to the West Coast state, often announcing special deals and sales. On Thursday, Ruger President and CEO Chris Killoy said the company had shipped all their current inventory of such mags to California distributors “in order to satisfy this demand.” Brownells posted a video of boxes of 30-round PMAGs heading down a conveyor with a tag “the Freedom train is coming.”
On the ground in California, local stores have posted images of “batches of Freedom” in the form of pallets of magazines arriving from out of state and many adjusted their hours to accommodate long lines with reports of “hundreds of people” queuing up to buy what in many cases are standard capacity magazines that have been banned from non-law enforcement sales for two decades.
The legal challenge which triggered the ruling, Duncan v. Becerra, was brought two years ago by the National Rifle Association and its state affiliate over a new California law that outlawed magazines grandfathered under the state’s 2000 ban on mags capable of holding 10 or more rounds. The judge in the case, Roger T. Benitez, had previously stayed enforcement of that law, which remains in effect.
But it is California.
It is somewhat of a victory for now though.
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If they can steal the second, the rest of the constitution is toilet paper.
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Palmetto State Armory, Magpul, and other vendors were shipping as much freedom as possible into California this week.
The judge's stay of his ruling carved out an exception for those persons who bought between his ruling date of March 29th, up to 5 PM today.
Palmetto State Armory has a giant banner on their website right now that says "Last Call for California." They will stop accepting orders from California residents at 6 PM Eastern, 3 PM Pacific.
If you're in California, order NOW!
It is my expectation that the 9th Circus will reverse Judge Binitez in part, specifically the part that finds the magazine ban unconstitutional in its entirety, and uphold Judge Binitez in part, specifically the part that outlawed grandfathered magazines.
That would leave California the way it was before Prop 63 was passed.
Ther are, literally, millions of standard capacity magazines that were ordered before the stay, that will arrive after today at 5pm. Tens, or even hundreds thousands of new felons!
Yep, cops in CA now have no choice but go door to door on every dwelling in California. Only way to be sure.
Heck, they might just stake out Cabelas and detain every person exiting, and search/arrest those with `illegal’ magazines.
“If you’re armed, you’re dangerous” is cops’ mantra now.
If the imminent “boating accidents” were legit there would be enough magazines down there to elevate Lake Shasta at least five feet!
Laws are for law abiders only.
Alas, my gun safe said "time to get another safe."
Letter in a CA paper:
High-capacity magazines
EDITOR: San Diego-based U.S. District Court Judge Roger Benitez cited home invasions where a woman used the extra bullets in her weapon to kill an attacker, while in two other cases women without additional ammunition ran out of bullets, to ensure that high-capacity gun magazines remain legal in California (“Judge blocks ban on high-capacity ammo,” Saturday).
Benitez said that “individual liberty and freedom are not out-coded concepts” as he declared unconstitutional the law that would have banned possessing any ammunition magazine holding more than 10 rounds.
I don’t mean to belittle the women used in the judge’s scenario, because I can imagine that their experiences were quite traumatic, but this is a specious argument to justify gun owners’ automatically having more ammunition in their protect-my-home gun. If you, under duress, can’t shoot an intruder with the 10-round magazine you’re allowed now, how am I to believe that you, still under duress, can do it with a larger magazine?
Perhaps all the gun owners who are put off by the high-capacity magazine ban would well serve themselves to learn how to use their guns in high-pressure situations, thereby increasing the odds that they will shoot an intruder within the 10-bullet limit suggested.
MARTHA J****
Santa Rosa
The final sentences prior to expressing the court order:
"This decision is a freedom calculus decided long ago by Colonists who cherished individual freedom more than the subservient security of a British ruler. The freedom they fought for was not free of cost then, and it is not free now."
The opening line:
"Individual liberty and freedom are not outmoded concepts."
If you use your gun for self defense in CA you still could get charged.
So just turn it in if you think you might use it for self defense.
What kind of logic did you learn?
Shudda bought some stock...
“If the imminent “boating accidents”...”
Do PMAGs float?
https://www.cdnnsports.com/magazines.html#capacity=30
https://www.cdnnsports.com/magazines.html#manufacturer=SIG%20SAUER&caliber=9MM&capacity=17,20
Couldn’t find a Ruger 10/22 25 round mag anywhere, all backordered
I doubt they'll ship to California until the lawsuit is settled.
This question is of course, purely hypothetical, but I would like to hypothetically ask if it is possible that I might have to hypothetically shoot 10 tyrants or more before reloading with my standard capacity magazine?
I fear tyrants more than I do criminals. (Although there is not that much difference between the two)
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