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To: JBW1949
People will go nuts on me here, but I think part of the reason suicides are increasing in this country is that all of us — and I do this, too, so I'm not jumping on you — respond to the news that someone has killed himself with, “Now he's at peace.” Problem is that suicide is self-murder if you are sane. Life is very hard, sometimes almost unbearably so. I've known people who have lost children and it's brutal. However, they are soldiering on. I think the pendulum has swung too far when it comes to suicide. Time to tell people they are not allowed to kill themselves and time to allow people to respond with anger and disgust when we hear someone has killed himself.

OK, fire away...

16 posted on 03/25/2019 12:26:01 PM PDT by utahagen (but but)
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To: utahagen

I agree with that. Nothing good to say about suicide.


17 posted on 03/25/2019 12:31:11 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: utahagen

What he went thru is unimaginable. But he left behind a wife and two younger children to have to deal with another tragedy
What he did was wrong. He and his wife are educated. The wife a scientist. He was neuropharmacologist. Get help. Move away from that town.


19 posted on 03/25/2019 12:39:09 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: utahagen

I said what I said more for the little girl’s sake...


25 posted on 03/25/2019 1:37:03 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: utahagen

I agree with you. It’s selfish and cowardly. People have lost children for centuries, and in all kinds of horrifying ways. People always opine how “unnatural” it is for a parent to lose a child. For most of human history that has been the norm, not the unnatural.
My Grandmother lost 3, one to drowning, two to a “fever’.
My Grandpa lost his whole family except one kid to the Spanish Flu. He got up, moved on, married again, and created the family I came from.

Sorry, but this is snowflake thinking. God gave you one life, get off your dead ass and find someone hurting more than you and move forward. Yeah it hurts BAD, but you don’t self-murder.


27 posted on 03/25/2019 2:22:19 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: utahagen

I’ll stand with you, on this one, utahagen -

And I’ve been there and almost done it. Decades ago.

But for the Grace of God.

For I was not a Christian at that time. I thank the Lord God for His gift of life granted to me from that day forward. I’ve had rough days and rougher nights since then, though at least I know now what I didn’t know then: Jesus.

I mean, really, know Jesus. The type of knowledge that even on the worst of days and darkest of nights you know somewhere deep in your body/soul that there is a glimmer of ‘something,’ keeping you alive.

I grieve for those without that eternal lifeline.

I grieve for those who do have the knowledge and acceptance of Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and still take that way out of pain.

Suicide is self-inflicted, correct. Pain can cause even the Christian to fall so hard and so fast that they take their eyes off the Cross for a second. And that second can make the difference.

Just keep listening and watching those around you, whether you love/like or even know them.

Just keep lifting people up on prayer, constantly.


29 posted on 03/25/2019 4:18:16 PM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet)
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