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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

At this point, best I can suggest is to look on Gunbroker.com. The days of surplus ‘03s being in every corner gun shop are long over.

Look for an auction with lots of pictures, and a seller that’s been around a while (lots of feedback in *both* directions)—both are a good protection against scam artists.

If you want to know particular details, I recommend “Collectors Guide to the 1903 Springfield” or “’03 Springfield Service Rifle”, both by Bruce Canfield. There are other excellent books on the ‘03 out there (by Bill Brophy and Clark Campbell) but they’re a bit dated and often pricey. I also recommend the 1903 Springfield forum on milsurps.com...lots of input from recognized 1903 experts there.

For safety...look for a serial number above 800,000 (Springfield Armory) or 285,507 (Rock Island Arsenal). Some will claim that the “brittle receiver” problem of lower-number rifles is overblown or bogus...I just don’t buy that, sounds too much like internet rumor and things taken out of context. Anything beyond that, have a competent gunsmith look it over...so long as you’re not too picky (e.g. wartime replacement parts are acceptable) then parts are still pretty easy to find.


7 posted on 03/08/2019 5:48:05 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
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To: M1903A1

Thanks, I know about the receiver number issue. I’m fine with replacement parts as long as they are original appearance and in safe shooting condition.


15 posted on 03/08/2019 6:08:44 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I'm an unreconstructed Free Trader and I do not give a damn.)
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To: M1903A1
The days of surplus ‘03s being in every corner gun shop are long over.

The days of cheap surplus SKS's are over. The days of cheap Mosan Nagants are over.

If you see deals, GRAB THEM.

18 posted on 03/08/2019 6:15:37 AM PST by Lazamataz (McCain's passing ended up being + 2 net Republican Senators. Him, and Lindsey Graham.)
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To: M1903A1

The receiver problem was well known long before the interwebs. It is real enough that the Ordinance Dept withdrew them. This is from the CMP website and is not simply internet rumor.

“M1903 rifles made before February 1918 utilized receivers and bolts which were single heat-treated by a method that rendered some of them brittle and liable to fracture when fired, exposing the shooter to a risk of serious injury. It proved impossible to determine, without destructive testing, which receivers and bolts were so affected and therefore potentially dangerous.

To solve this problem, the Ordnance Department commenced double heat treatment of receivers and bolts. This was commenced at Springfield Armory at approximately serial number 800,000 and at Rock Island Arsenal at exactly serial number 285,507. All Springfields made after this change are commonly called “high number” rifles. Those Springfields made before this change are commonly called “low-number” rifles.

In view of the safety risk the Ordnance Department withdrew from active service all “low-number” Springfields. During WWII, however, the urgent need for rifles resulted in the rebuilding and reissuing of many “low-number” as well as “high-number” Springfields. The bolts from such rifles were often mixed during rebuilding, and did not necessarily remain with the original receiver.

Generally speaking, “low number” bolts can be distinguished from “high-number” bolts by the angle at which the bolt handle is bent down. All “low number” bolts have the bolt handle bent straight down, perpendicular to the axis of the bolt body. High number bolts have “swept-back” (or slightly rearward curved) bolt handles.

A few straight-bent bolts are of the double heat-treat type, but these are not easily identified, and until positively proved otherwise ANY straight-bent bolt should be assumed to be “low number”. All original swept-back bolts are definitely “high number”. In addition, any bolt marked “N.S.” (for nickel steel) can be safely regarded as “high number” if obtained directly from CMP (beware of re-marked fakes).

CMP DOES NOT RECOMMEND FIRING ANY SPRINGFIELD RIFLE WITH A ”LOW NUMBER” RECEIVER. SUCH RIFLES SHOULD BE REGARDED AS COLLECTOR’S ITEMS, NOT “SHOOTERS”.
CMP ALSO DOES NOT RECOMMEND FIRING ANY SPRINGFIELD RIFLE, REGARDLESS OF SERIAL NUMBER, WITH A SINGLE HEAT-TREATED “LOW NUMBER” BOLT. SUCH BOLTS, WHILE HISTORICALLY CORRECT FOR DISPLAY WITH A RIFLE OF WWI OR EARLIER VINTAGE, MAY BE DANGEROUS TO USE FOR SHOOTING.
THE UNITED STATES ARMY GENERALLY DID NOT SERIALIZE BOLTS. DO NOT RELY ON ANY SERIAL NUMBER APPEARING ON A BOLT TO DETERMINE WHETHER SUCH BOLT IS “HIGH NUMBER” OR “LOW NUMBER”.”


22 posted on 03/08/2019 6:27:06 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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