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To: DiogenesLamp
Close enough to what I said that it isn't worth the trouble to go look.

Facts never did much matter to you, did they? Not when what happened differs from what you think should have happened. The fact is that the cabinet approved the Fort Sumter resupply on March 28th.

They were against it before they were for it. Lincoln made it clear that he was going to do it, so his staff fell in line.

Opinion masquerading as fact once again I see.

But you knew that, and you just wanted to waste both of our times making a trivial dig because you've got nothing better to throw.

Pointing out errors is never a waste of time. Sorry if doing so offends you.

102 posted on 02/27/2019 9:51:30 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Facts never did much matter to you, did they?

See how you take an example of a relatively trivial distinction between whether it was one person who agreed, or two, and turning it into this "facts never did much matter to you, did they?" as if I had said something that is significant and absolutely false.

Here you are attempting to make a little dig about a trivial distinction, because you absolutely cannot address the core point that the majority of Lincoln's cabinet told Lincoln that if he did what he was contemplating, it would cause a horrible war.

And this is after you deceitfully implied that pointing out what they originally said is a lie, because it contradicts what they later said. And you are attempting to use this childish trick to once again dodge the point that they all knew the mission would be resisted, and they warned Lincoln that it would cause a war, and they initially opposed that war.

This is what you do. You keep the discussion focused on utterly stupid trivia, and you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the core point involved. And you keep any discussion with you going in stupid little circles, and just end up wasting everyone's time because you don't have the honesty necessary to lose gracefully.

Opinion masquerading as fact once again I see.

Occam's razor. The bulk of the Cabinet was against it because it would cause a war. After consulting with them further, they decided that they were okay with a war.

They didn't change their opinion about causing a war. The only change was their willingness to start one, which pretty much all of them realized was going to be the result of Lincoln sending his 5 warship and 3 tug boats, (Possibly armed tugboats.) while calling it a "supply" mission.

Pointing out errors is never a waste of time. Sorry if doing so offends you.

Pointing out trivial errors is a waste of everybody's time. If you hadn't spent so much effort disputing whether or not one more person in the entire cabinet was against the mission, you could have admitted that they all knew it would be resisted, and therefore start a war.

Or I should say, you could admit it if you had any interest in being honest rather than simply pretending his actions away.

104 posted on 02/27/2019 11:16:18 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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