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To: Travis McGee
Interesting article but a bit amateurish.

First step is what situations you envision are likely: home invasion? survival in the woods? forming part of a neighborhood defense team? How long do you see combat lasting?

What sort of adversaries do you think you will have to deal with and how many?

Then you assess your skills and the skills of your team and what weapons and calibers can be shared and employed.

The writer dismisses .308/7.62mm NATO out of hand for long range shooting - so how far does he see the conceptual ranges to be? The longest range I ever engaged anybody with my M-14 was 600m and I am sure I got him. Going to a non-plentiful and expensive caliber like 6.5 Creedmoor would be self-defeating.

Unless someone thinks that CWII is real possibility, stick with a reliable 12 gauge. It is an effective killer, doesn't penetrate walls if you're loaded with birdshot and if a war never happens, you can always go quail hunting.

10 posted on 02/07/2019 5:20:06 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail
forming part of a neighborhood defense team?

That's where Mosin Nagants come in.

Everybody in my neighborhood that thinks they'll just come to my house gets a Mosin , a bayonet, and 5 rounds of ammo.

That's the price you pay for being un-prepared.

42 posted on 02/07/2019 11:49:07 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: Chainmail

Go back and re read the article before you let us know what you don’t know.


45 posted on 02/07/2019 12:20:00 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Chainmail
 
 
The writer dismisses .308/7.62mm NATO out of hand for long range shooting - so how far does he see the conceptual ranges to be?
 
The flipside is the usual pile-on that the 30 caliber is 'too much gun in town' & 'only suitable for long range shooting in open country' is either ignoring or ignorant of the practical tactical roles. Such as being the minimum caliber (308-311) for use in immobilizing non-hardened up vehicles with. Also prime for decisively immobilizing occupants in the passenger compartment of said vehicles if need be. The 223s don't really cut the mustard at that, well unless there's an M249 handy you could hose it down with. The other is turning moderate forms of cover that other small arms calibers can't efficiently defeat (if at all) into mere concealment - the 7.62 NATO will perform well at that. Anyone who anticipates such threat scenarios being a possibility in their given area/situation should upgrade their arsenal.
 
 

98 posted on 02/08/2019 11:11:15 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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