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To: Levy78; Travis McGee
This is a given, that we as conservatives do not share the "hive mentality" of the Left. It is a double-edged sword. It is inherent to conservatism, which sees people as individuals and values individuality, but it also prevents us from fighting back as effectively as we can. That is why I see this "Ballot Harvesting" as so perniciously dangerous. I hear Freepers saying they don't see anything wrong with it, because "We can do it too". I believe they miss the point that these ballot harvesting legislative efforts were put in DIRECTLY as a way to game the system where the Left is losing (they have lost on unions which cuts into their revenues, and they are going to eventually lose on illegal (and legal) immigration and are already losing their stranglehold on minority voting blocks.

For blacks to support leftist candidates at a 75-80% rate vs. a 90% rate sows the seeds of destruction for their party, and they know it.

They are corrupt, hypocritical, and often outright stupid, but overall for their goals they aren't stupid, and they see the writing on the wall and are turning to finding ways to stretch the interval until the Left fails to be wholly viable.

They are attacking the process on every angle they can find, from gerrymandering, ballot harvesting, stretching out or ignoring ballot counting intervals, to advocating for the easing of any controls on voting by supporting efforts in the effort to stretch their political nourishment just a little bit longer.

And of course, this doesn't take into account the ongoing efforts to litigate and corrupt the voting process with voter fraud.

They want to make it as easy as possible to cast a ballot in as many ways and over the longest intervals of time that they can. They want to confuse and obfuscate the handling of physical ballots, because the more pathways there are, the more chinks in the armor of a valid and legal voting process may be found. Everything from carloads of ballots that turn up at the last minute, to a mail process that can be subverted to their advantage, to simply resisting the requirement of valid voter ID and cleansing of the voter rolls.

The key thing with all of these things mentioned is that they require manual intervention of people, almost always intervention of people who believe in "the cause". And there will always be a bottomless supply of those people, primarily young people who don't have the life experiences necessary to understand the issues at an intellectual level, so they rely on emotional framing of those issues, which almost always results in the wholesale acceptance of the Leftist agenda.

Which is why we are at a disadvantage when we reject the "hive mentality" of the Left. But it is part and parcel of who we are, and generally, conservatives are far more principled about these kinds of things.

24 posted on 01/28/2019 5:40:23 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel

At least a lot of us have had the sense to move away from the blue hives in time. When they go up in flames, it won’t matter who you are. Just understanding the issues presented in these posts puts us miles ahead of the herd of NPC drones.


74 posted on 01/28/2019 1:21:01 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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