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To: JudyinCanada; All
I think you are correct. This from an earlier thread:

Are you listening to his speech? “We have no choice but to build a wall”. If no funding, “I will address this emergency”
declare a national emergency after three weeks and is strongly hinting he will. That will not be a cave, and it will be up to a conservative majority Supreme Court to decide if he acted lawfully.

You need to look beyond the issue of who is winning the day’s news cycle. The Dems win today, but I see no reason why he won’t declare a national emergency- the worst that can happen is the courts stop him, but, if that happens, he can still say he tried.

My comment

THIS IS THE NEXT STEP. NO COMPROMISE FROM THE DEMS ON A BORDR SECURITY/BARRIER SYSTEM FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS. THEN A POSSIBLE FURTHER SHUT DOWN AS THE SUPER BOWL IS OVER (AND THAT IS AN INDICTMENT OF JUST HOW UNSERIOUS AND SHALLOW AND FECKLESS A LOT OF THE AMERICANS THE DEMS WANT TO ‘REPLACE’ ARE)

Sorry I am not yelling. I hit the damn ‘caps lock’ key accidentally

With the SB out of the way another shutdown even longer and a clear threat of a national emergency declaration. In spite of this being within the President's powers several prog judges on the 9th Circuit or somewhere else will issue an injunction to stop this. Will the President refuse to recognize the injunction as an improper and unconstitutional infringement on executive powers and push ahead. I hope so, but the excrement will hit the fan and parts of the federal bureaucracy including parts of the military departments will either refuse to act or stall by malicious compliance tactics. The dems will certainly use these events as a basis for voting Articles of Impeachment. After that who knows other than it will be a hot summer inside the beltway with huge amounts of media screaming 24/7.

The big question would be if the President will officially ignore the injunction and declare it to be an unconstitutional infringement on his powers as Commander in Chief. The dems would certainly get impeachment articles from the House. The rubber meets the road moment is when the Executive is faced with a refusal by parts of the executive branch and the armed forces to execute his orders or engage in malicious obedience. At that point it is time for the President to start dismissal and calling on allies within the states to execute the Presidential declaration. This is what a sort of civil conflict could look like. DJT needs to get some elocution lessons and prepare the speech or speeches of his life. Read the sort that TR gave i.e. ‘We stand at Armageddon and fight for the Lord’. Because it would be political and constitutional existential crisis in effect political Armageddon.

44 posted on 01/25/2019 3:10:07 PM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: robowombat

I’ll suggest a different outcome in three weeks. The legislation that will emerge will be complex, with a solution for DACA, lots more work visas and several billion for a smart wall (Trump) 21st century border protection (Dems) which will include sensors, drones, scanning technology, and maybe some for repair of existing barriers. No money for a big, beautiful wall. Trump will sign it and everyone will declare a success.


77 posted on 01/25/2019 3:22:31 PM PST by Truth29
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To: robowombat

No POTUS is a dictator, yet.

Until that happens, a Trump “declaration of emergency” will be challenged in battle like no “declaration” in US History, even while he is trying to actually uphold the law, which you alluded to. And it will likely be very drawn out. This time, I expect both Congress and the SCOTUS to really “mix it up”, both legally (even if illegal), and legislatively, against the POTUS.

Almost no contemporary lawless legislator, jurist, or president will be subject to flagrantly breaking/violating our Constitution and laws, as long as they are serving to bring about the goal of a humanistic sovereign global socialist government, designed to subjugate and enslave all!

What we are witnessing is absolute proof of the real enemy within, and their goals to kill liberty in America and the world, to bring us to the threshold of the new global socialist order (with tyrannical and genocidal leftists in control of the US). The anti-God anti-American global socialists, who desire to make subservient the United States, have been fully exposed to any with open eyes. You are right, they may not lose this fight short of war, meaning a real war. They would use this war to further subjugate the US population, if they were to win and remain in control. While some would desire to believe it anecdotal for me to conclude this, I will say it anyway - The influence of humanism, uninterrupted pay checks, relationships with liberal and left wing spouses and children, left wing academia, and the media’s left wing strangle hold, are too great within the Pentagon itself, for many or most of them, to choose to fight for what is right. Many in the DoD today, will debate the existence of right and wrong.

I could be wrong, and I hope I am wrong, but I do not believe Trump will go so far either. As the best way to avoid a real war, is for an enemy to know in advance, there is enough resolve and character against them to win it.

What you are hoping for and saying are lawfully correct, if the Constitution were to be properly applied.

At the end of the day, liberty cannot exist in the absence of recognition and practice of individual morality!

As such, the threat of tyranny is not an “if”, but a “when”, as utter moral bankruptcy, historical illiteracy, and illiteracy in the principles of liberty make up more than a majority throughout society today. As well, there is little to no relation between current generations, and previous generations who loved God more, knew world history more accurately, and of the overwhelming dominance of genocidal tyranny throughout it, and who understood the frailty and dogged vigilance required to keep us all from being real slaves in every way.

America has been drifting lawless for a long time. Subtle moral compromises have brought us to the brink of tyranny. We have lost blatantly unconstitutional rulings for decades. The horrifically barbaric “abortion rights” campaign with tens of millions baby people painfully mutilated to death, homosexual rulings, the loss of moral bearing and hate for those who espouse moral boundaries, stronger and ever increasing acceptance of federal governance over the states, (desovereignization of the states), and now the desire for desovereignization of the US in favor of a sovereign centralized global socialist/Marxist government.

We have been witnessing the tidal wave of anti-God socialist rulings since FDR’s left wing packed SCOTUS and judicial branch, and all who have - and are willing to compromise with evil, immorality, and any enemies of liberty - the generations of amoral, humanistic, and socialistic indoctrinated members of society. These have grown in number and humanistic and pagan militancy, and can no longer be beaten within their mutually reflective terminally corrupt parliamentary form of government. Even if there is an intermittently elected President with character and resolve.

What we need as a nation, is to turn back to God, regardless of the cost, and to turn back! This is the only possible way to avoid Gods judgement.


*Hopefully Trump can break from his well established two year “only do what the courts say I can do” pattern.

However, in this case, I believe Congress and the courts will go far beyond anything they have ever done, regardless of how lawless, to keep everything going in the same completely terminal direction of societal suicide and the end of our liberty and nation.

I don’t desire to see or believe this at all either, but it also appears either Trump and his advisors, have decided to keep him from taking any dangerous and serious action, against the lawless RICO, sedition, and treason which has taken place, and which has involved actual joint conspiracy between the DNC/Intel/DOJ/Kremlin/Brit/Aussy efforts to carry out an actual Coup (ongoing) - yes against the president, but more importantly our electorate, and the Constitution of the United States.


122 posted on 01/25/2019 5:15:08 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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