[Clutch Martin]

Here’s what I remember... Vietnam maximum ranges were WWII minimum ranges. Vietnam was a different environment than the Mideast and the Mideast has buildings made of concrete and the 5.56 is not an effective round to penetrate.

[Chainmail]

Here's what I remember: the ranges in Vietnam were either very close or very long and the enemy was usually in heavy cover. The M16 may have made the contractors feel great but it was horribly unreliable and mostly ineffective against the enemy. The early version with the lighter bullets were essentially a .22LR against anybody further than 200m.

The M14 however, penetrated heavy vegetation, concrete gravestones, sandbags, and of course, people. Every single man I hit with my M14 went down and stayed down.

I will always despise the people who forced the idiot M16 on us when our lives depended on it.