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US Navy sub commander demoted after hiring prostitutes in Philippines
Fox News ^ | January 12, 2019 | Lukas Mikelionis

Posted on 01/12/2019 3:15:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A Navy submarine commander was disciplined and demoted last summer after admitting to paying for female prostitutes while stationed in the Philippines.

Capt. Travis Zettel lost the confidence to command the attack submarine USS Bremerton and was relieved of duty back in August following the investigation...

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To: Hot Tabasco
Hopefully the skunk who squealed will be identified and dealt with appropriately by the other sailors.......

That won't happen. Seriously though, this Captain should've known better.

His poor judgment wasn't in getting a hooker. It was getting ten of them in the presence of his crew and thinking no one was going to blab about it. Drummed in to every sailor's brain these days is the notion that if you see misbehavior and don't report it, you're just as culpable as the person who misbehaved.

If you want to bang a hooker, be discrete. Be discrete with where you do it, and who your liberty buddies are. Especially today when liberty antics make it to Facebook at the speed of light.

For better or worse, the bacchanalian days of getting hammered with your crew surrounded by a harem of hookers ended a long time ago and this Commanding Officer knew it, or should have.

41 posted on 01/12/2019 4:05:51 PM PST by Drew68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s wrong?
He paid them right?
He didn’t drug, abuse or otherwise mistreat them, right?
He must not be a Democrat.


42 posted on 01/12/2019 4:07:00 PM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Drew68

The legacy of Tailhook.


43 posted on 01/12/2019 4:07:14 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Captain is 0-6 in the Navy.....equivalent to an Army/Marine Corps/Air Force Col. His next promotion is to Rear Admiral!


44 posted on 01/12/2019 4:07:48 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: gaijin
I never hear of the brass cracking down on what is causing this:

Active-duty women have far higher rates of sexually transmitted infections (STIs) than their male colleagues or civilian counterparts, and the military services are trying to help young service members avoid the types of behavior that can create medical issues.

Military women had STI rates three to seven times greater than women of the same age in the general population, according to an article published in the Journal of Women’s Health.

http://www.usmedicine.com/agencies/department-of-defense-dod/military-responds-to-high-rates-of-stis-in-active-duty-female-servicemembers/


45 posted on 01/12/2019 4:08:56 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: I got the rope
Well, Lisa Nowak got a slap on the wrist for doing some crazy stuff....


46 posted on 01/12/2019 4:09:56 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: jjotto

Are you kidding? Talk about conduct unbecoming. This guy set himself up for all manner of compromise. He was the captain of an attack submarine and had been strategic weapons officer on a boomer - he has all sorts of valuable intelligence that about a million interested parties would like to get at. Not to mention that 40 years ago even I as a callow midshipman knew that consorting with prostitutes would get you instantly shitcanned. Jesus - getting dopes mixed up with hookers is the oldest trick in the spy handbook.


47 posted on 01/12/2019 4:10:18 PM PST by stormer
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To: gaijin

“Can you IMAGINE a member of the US Navy employing a prostitute..?”

No sir, not me. Except this one time in San Francisco......


48 posted on 01/12/2019 4:11:30 PM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: mrsmith
It’s not like he didn’t pay.

Maybe he wrote a rubber check.

49 posted on 01/12/2019 4:12:48 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Forty-Niner

Go see, he’s not an O-6.


50 posted on 01/12/2019 4:13:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: dfwgator
The legacy of Tailhook.

Yep! There's a pre and post-Tailhook Navy and at this point, there aren't many sailors left from the pre-Tailhook Navy. But you're right. Tailhook was the singular event that forced the change from "Grandpa's navy" to today's "United States Navy Inc."

Walk down the main passageways of any squadron on the flightline, look at the posters on the walls. Today's Navy is as PC as any college campus.

51 posted on 01/12/2019 4:14:24 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

It’s now a “Global Force For Good”....Puke!


52 posted on 01/12/2019 4:16:08 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow - this must be a new age military - fifty years ago when I was on Okinawa a good majority of the troopers would have been up for demotion had these standards applied......


53 posted on 01/12/2019 4:16:16 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Forty-Niner
Captain is 0-6 in the Navy.....equivalent to an Army/Marine Corps/Air Force Col. His next promotion is to Rear Admiral!

It gets confusing. Captain is both a paygrade (O-6) and a title. Any CO of a ship is referred to as "Captain" regardless of their paygrade. As such, CDR Zettle would have been addressed as "Captain" by his crew but his rank was Commander, or O-5.

54 posted on 01/12/2019 4:17:53 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Intolerant in NJ

My father fought to invade Okinawa and they sent him back I don’t know how many times


55 posted on 01/12/2019 4:23:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Drew68

The problem with Tailhook was an underage girl. Lt. Paula Coughlin had a reputation of being a “loose” woman, however, when it comes to underage females, no excuses and this enhanced Coughlin’s case.


56 posted on 01/12/2019 4:34:44 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: gaijin
“Another great example of the standards NOT applied to leaders instead being applied to the Nth power to the Ordinary Joe.”

While I don't condone prostitution in any form, I agree with you. Clinton can have oral sex in the Oval Office with an intern, and remain CIC, but look what happens to this guy. Hillary AND likely Obama use unsecured communications and put classified information at risk and absolutely nothing happens to them, BUT, an enlisted man takes a picture inside a submarine and goes to prison.

57 posted on 01/12/2019 4:43:03 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: gaijin
Bring females into the fleet and then ALL MANNER of unremarkable stuff gets criminalized.

Exactly so.

58 posted on 01/12/2019 4:57:37 PM PST by gogeo (The Repubs may not always deserve to win, but the RATs always deserve to lose.)
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How are the illegitimate children of these hookers gonna eat? Do people actually believe hookers are in it strictly to party?


59 posted on 01/12/2019 5:18:18 PM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed it wright.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This has to be the Onion or something.

Are they really sacking sailors for paying whores?

When I was in Pacfleet, they would have sacked every man in the fleet.

Just

Bizarre


60 posted on 01/12/2019 5:24:22 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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