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This is good to explain things that are going on in the Senate......

Chad Pergram ‏Verified account @ChadPergram 2h2 hours ago

Senate procedural vote to call up Hse bill with wall changes started at 12:31 pm et. Flake voted no. Senate is 51-49 GOP. They may need Pence to break a tie. But GOPers need all of their members here. Otherwise, they can’t even start debate on the bill

Even if they do get Hse bill w/wall money on the floor, McConnell has to file cloture to end debate on the bill. If you do it by the book and file cloture today...you can’t even take the cloture vote (which would fail, because it needs 60 yeas), until SUNDAY.

There are no side negotiations going on now to avert a government shutdown. So unless something drastically changes, we are cruising toward a government shutdown.

In order to handle existing spending bill which has been ricocheting between the House and Senate for some time now, the Senate NEEDS TO GET ONTO THE BILL. Otherwise, they are stuck. So far, Senate lacks the votes.

Process #1 for Hse passed bill ) Vote to concur with the House changes. If the Senate does that, the House and Senate are aligned and the bill goes to the President for signature.

Process #2 for Hse passed bill: Senate concurs w/hse changes, but also make ANY change to the bill (called “concurring with an amendment"). Then the bill goes back to the House because, again, the House and Senate are not aligned

Process #3 for Hse passed bill: Senate could disagree with Hse. The Senate would actually take a vote to “disagree” in tHse changes 2 the bill & ship the measure back to the Hse because, again, they are not in sync. Each of 3 options is "debatable" which could entail cloture

1,552 posted on 12/21/2018 11:54:08 AM PST by Lakeside Granny (Move slowly, carefully --- and then strike like the fastest animal on the planet! DJT)
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To: Lakeside Granny

Thanks, Gran!


1,553 posted on 12/21/2018 11:56:45 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Lakeside Granny
Chad Pergram ‏Verified account @ChadPergram 5m5 minutes ago

Senate vote just to get onto the House bill to fund government and fund the wall still open after more than two hours. Started at 12:31 pm et. Multiple senators not here. The nays are outpacing the yeas. Currently 43 yeas and 46 nays. Dem MT Sen Tester just voted nay

1,554 posted on 12/21/2018 11:57:44 AM PST by Lakeside Granny (Move slowly, carefully --- and then strike like the fastest animal on the planet! DJT)
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To: Lakeside Granny

Great post LG...good information.


1,555 posted on 12/21/2018 12:03:33 PM PST by STARLIT (Hope begins when you're standin in the dark lookin out at the light.)
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To: Lakeside Granny

Thanks for the info LG. I’m thinking we are heading the process number three.


1,573 posted on 12/21/2018 12:27:17 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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