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Surgical robot BOTCHES surgery, kills man on operating table while doctors sipped lattes
DC Dirty Laundry ^ | 11/16/2018 | Ethan Huff

Posted on 11/16/2018 6:14:05 AM PST by deandg99

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61 posted on 11/16/2018 7:02:11 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: antidisestablishment
This happened in February 2015. Why the story now?

Author was tired of writing about

a) election
b) caravan
c) Trump
d) Brexit
e) all of the above

62 posted on 11/16/2018 7:03:49 AM PST by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Soul of the South

“Surgeons Sukumaran Nair and Thasee Pillay” likely affirmative action type hires in UK and just getting paid whether outcome good or negligent death of patient.

Seems we are heading toward surgeons who think they can just press a button and get paid, outcome not their concern nor fault in their minds.


63 posted on 11/16/2018 7:06:25 AM PST by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: deandg99

Weekly
World
News


64 posted on 11/16/2018 7:07:12 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: I want the USA back

You saying that no machine is smarter than Wolf Blitzer?


65 posted on 11/16/2018 7:08:48 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: V_TWIN

Only new to the UK apparently. Robotic ASSISTED surgery has been common in the US for decades.


66 posted on 11/16/2018 7:09:41 AM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: Bonemaker
The Da Vinci “robot” is actually a telesurgical tool which does not utilize any motions independent of the surgeon operating it. What was likely used in this massive cluster f*ck was an autonomous surgical robot analagous to a self driving car. Link
67 posted on 11/16/2018 7:10:14 AM PST by SC DOC
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To: deandg99
this first-time-use robot ...

Writer could have more properly stated this as a last-time-use robot.

68 posted on 11/16/2018 7:14:18 AM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: deandg99

I knew someone that was a programmer for a medical equipment company. He left the job because the amount of testing and safety stuff made the development cycle really long and boring.

The article says the failure was mostly if not completely due to untrained and not-present doctors. No mention of how the machine itself failed.

The machine put stitches into places where it wasn’t supposed to. I’d think a person would need to guide the machine while it was stitching.


69 posted on 11/16/2018 7:14:40 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: deandg99

This sad incident has been widely reported in the foreign press. The lead surgeon was an attention-loving Indian or Bangladeshi. He later admitted that he hadn’t attended the required instructional classes. Well, he went to the conference — free food, drink, hotel, travel — but once there declined to attend the seminars. The operation, when performed the old-fashioned way, has a 99% success rate.


70 posted on 11/16/2018 7:15:29 AM PST by Blurb2350
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To: V_TWIN; Red Badger
And they want robot driven cars on the roads?………………… - Red Badger
Yeah, thats another thing. The track record on them ain’t so good. Autonomous cars have killed several IIRC. But hey, it’s all in the name of PROGRESS.
That’s what they said about the human-operated automobile in its early years. Traffic fatalities have peaked and are now a lot "less worse” than they used to wuz - but still . . .
Be not the first by whom the new are tried,
Nor yet the last to lay the old aside. — Alexander Pope
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/alexander_pope_140740

71 posted on 11/16/2018 7:17:12 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: deandg99

NHS has life and death control over you. That’s the purpose of nationalized health care. Oops, you’re dead, matey! don’t get your knickers in a twit over it, keep a stiff upper lip, cheerio and all that but you can’t sue NHS.


72 posted on 11/16/2018 7:17:24 AM PST by I want the USA back (It's Ok To Be White. White Lives Matter. White Guilt is Socially Constructed)
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To: Blurb2350
The lead surgeon was an attention-loving Indian or Bangladeshi.
Well, he has plenty of attention now!

73 posted on 11/16/2018 7:21:05 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
NO ONE thought of this ?
74 posted on 11/16/2018 7:27:50 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true; I have no proof .... but they're true.)
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To: deandg99

“At one point the robot punctured the intra-aortic septum....” This an example of incorrect reporting.... there is no such thing.

What there is, is the INTRA-Atrial and the INTRA-Ventricular septa (septums) EITHER of which, if punctured would be catastrophic with massive surgical blood loss.

The question has to be asked-— was this patient on a heart lung machine so the heart could be stopped while being worked on? This is an obvious question— that quite obviously the answer to is...... NO. If they were “on the heart lung pump” they would not have died on the table and the robot eventually could have been cut off, so a REAL surgeon could repair the damages as best they could.

The REAL horror in all of this— is that it is National Health Care (the model for obamaumaocare, btw), and so... there can be no LIABILITY for the gubmint doctors murdering a patient by proxy with a robot. So.... ironic and horrible.


75 posted on 11/16/2018 7:37:21 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: deandg99

Well, at least his death precludes the NHS from wasting any more of its oh-so limited budget on him. Now doctors can focus on making other patients die in the waiting room from lack of attention.


76 posted on 11/16/2018 7:40:54 AM PST by DPMD
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To: cuban leaf

Outstanding comment and train of thought! Excellent!

Single payer, Brit UK “national health” gubmint healthcare. Puts robot to work to replace the substandard golliwogs brought in from the old India colony-— to save even that expense.

And.. kills the patient.

Will be ruled inefficient- because under obamaumao— and he said this to a Q— an 80 year old woman needing a pacemaker, should probably not get one, and to “just give her pain medicine”. The ultimate goal of gubmint healthcare is to 1.) cost shift the expense of care away from private insurance. 2.) bureaucratically eliminate expenses, and thus patient treatment expense. and 3.)operate under this “efficiency” such that the promoters of it are... re-elected.


77 posted on 11/16/2018 7:42:08 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: scrabblehack

These things are great for marketing. “Our hospital has robot surgery, and lasers”. Reality is they usually wind up in the corner of OR with lead aprons hanging off of them.


78 posted on 11/16/2018 7:42:18 AM PST by ozarker
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To: cuban leaf

“Dr. Bombay.... Dr. Bombay..paging to 911.....”


79 posted on 11/16/2018 7:43:17 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Bonemaker

Agree— this is robotic assistance... to reduce motions of the surgeon into finer micro control.

Would like to know exactly WHAT machine was being used. The article seems to imply it was “programmed” and working on its own, with a camera monitor that then was covered in blood.

Eye and neurosurgery done with micro-robotics has been very successful in the hands of..... well, not Dr. Bombay and the “shakedown cruise” engineers in this case.


80 posted on 11/16/2018 7:49:44 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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