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Good lord I have been hearing that chit all my life

I miss Michael Rivero but he may be back on this thread.......LOL!

58 posted on 11/10/2018 11:36:08 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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The demographics make the future look bleak. Even the electoral college won’t save America from leftist rule after a few more years of attrition of the voter base. One more eight year Democrat cycle and the demographics will be fatally compromised.

We can’t foresee the future, of course, some new workable form of American nationalism could emerge. I suppose one example might be Italian and Irish immigration waves of a century or more past. These were probably opposed by many traditionalists but today, Irish and Italian Americans are among the core of Trump’s support. Some forms of Asian immigration have worked through a similar process.

It could happen again with Hispanic immigration which seems to be the main threat to the stability of the current political order. There are many hard-core leftists among the Hispanics, both in the legal and the illegal immigrant communities. But will they stay hard-core leftist after generations of living in America?

Is there some way of squaring the circle and creating a political movement that Americanizes (for lack of a better term) the aspirations of these inevitable residents and citizens, or is the solution to uproot the vast majority and try to keep the demographic balance suitable for a non-leftist future? Even there, you have the inescapable fact of 80-90 per cent support for socialism among blacks, and 50-60 per cent among millenial youth of all backgrounds, thanks in part to two generations of educational brainwashing.

Then you have the social and cultural trends which promote fertility among immigrants and discourage reproduction, even marriage, among the European portion of the population. Those trends basically point towards a socialist future as well.

If we know that socialism is wrong and dangerous (its end result likely to turn the prosperity of today into a vast poverty within a generation) then perhaps it is time to consider a different form of government and to reshape the education system towards an acceptance of that new reality. The choices seem to be between an authoritarian top-down rule or revolutionary bankruptcy. Neither of them is very appealing but I would rather live under a benign dictatorship than a freely elected death spiral.

This goes a few steps beyond martial law. However, if somebody does not articulate this view and act on it, the results will inevitably be socialist chaos. The only question in my mind is whether it starts in 2020, or 2024.

And the problem is that many who think about this and see the inevitable aspects will be my age (going on 70) and will think, well this is a problem for my kids to solve. Or their kids. If they have any. Now of course, the same questions might have been raised about a leftist projection in the 1970s and then social conditions changed considerably and allowed for a Reagan revolution. But that was without the Hispanic factor at play.

You’ll notice I didn’t even mention Islam in this. For me, Islam is just a nuisance background feature of this spiral, it would be happening even if there had been no Muslim presence at all in America. It doesn’t help, of course, but the main factor to be considered is, how to preserve the free enterprise personal-liberty model of Americanism in the face of a growing demographic clamor for statist welfare. If the illegals were really committed to personal growth on their own initiative, they might be welcomed but in fact they are just looking for the social welfare that their home countries cannot or will not provide. Perhaps there’s a solution apparent in that fact, we might get a workable solution by funding social welfare programs in those home countries (and you could only access them there).

This is a time of great emergency. Make no mistake about that. I live in Canada so I get to see on a daily basis what lies around the next corner, we are a bit further along this road to socialist surrender here, but with a somewhat different set of demographic factors in play. We have more of the homegrown conditioning factor I mentioned and less of the Hispanic socialist influx factor, so on balance, about the same critical mass just waiting for the demographic time bomb to explode. As bad as you’ve heard Justin Trudeau is, he has not gone full Castro on us yet, but if he doesn’t after an enabling second election win, the next bunch might. And we only have RINOs up here, the numbers of actual conservatives in our Conservative Party is a handful, and our Trumpian alternative is just in its very early formative stages. (way too late in my opinion)


60 posted on 11/10/2018 11:55:14 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (vote Democrat -- and become the first living American to do so)
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